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Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

According to Genepax, the metal or the metal compound is supported by a porous body such as zeolite inside the fuel electrode of the membrane electrode assembly (MEA). The products of the hydrogen generation reaction dissolves in water, and the water containing them will be discharged with water inside the system. Upon the completion of the reaction, the generation of hydrogen and power stops.

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Anno said:

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080616/153301/

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Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

According to Genepax, the metal or the metal compound is supported by a porous body such as zeolite inside the fuel electrode of the membrane electrode assembly (MEA). The products of the hydrogen generation reaction dissolves in water, and the water containing them will be discharged with water inside the system. Upon the completion of the reaction, the generation of hydrogen and power stops.

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Electricity.

  1. Two or more connected cells that produce a direct current by converting chemical energy to electrical energy.
  2. A single cell, such as a dry cell, that produces an electric current

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That's why I didn't understand why it was making you so upset about their claim.  I was thinking, "Sure, it using another chemical to facilitate the electrolysis, but it still runs on HHO.  Just an extra step in there that will require some periodic maintenance.  Not exactly forthright but not too much of a stretch as to invalidate their invention if it indeed works."

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well, to be fair, I thought like you, given the articles title and the recent claims of H fuels, that it combusted H.  The article didn't really say much about what actually happens.

I think it was zouden or anno that did the extra work and figured out it was more of a battery powered car.

Just turned out their claims were even more misleading

I'd say though that the criticism still stands even if it were the prior.  At most you could say hydrogen was a fuel in a step of the reaction, but as to the car, the metal would still be the fuel. 

The extra step like you say is just a a means to transfer energy, so its not really a fuel overall, since its generation is more costly than its production.  Its like a gear.  Theoretically it is energetically neutral, but friction will reduce it to a net loss, neccesary though it may well be.

Oh well, I guess we get confused when the companys make silly claims, from their CEO no less, and say nothing allowing anyone to decide if there car is anything decent, yet still want investors, lol.

DieCommie said:

There are thousands of people all over the world who's sole job is thinking outside the box.  Sometimes a thing is outside the box for a reason, like water powered cars.

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orangemiss said:

finally the we dont have to pay the Al Sauds 3.75 a gallon anymore yay! 

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Q: What is the WES-equipped electric vehicle?
A: We equipped a commercially available electric vehicle with a WES to generate power to recharge the battery.

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Q: How many hours can the car be driven on one liter?
A: We have no data concerning continuous driving. We would need the cooperation of a car manufacturer to obtain official data.

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