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installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars
    #3170509 - 09/23/04 05:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i always wondered why noone had thought of using an emp device while trafficing drugs, suppose you got puled over, and you knew they were going to search your car eventually and find whatever, you could use the emp and fry their car and all of their comuunications. if you happened to be in a remote area you could definately out run the cops before they made it to a phone.
of course you would have to harden your car against it,which is possible.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3170597 - 09/23/04 05:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i always wondered why noone had thought of using an emp device while trafficing drugs

Probably because there are (currently) only two known ways of producing an EMP of sufficient power to damage electrical circuits:

1) a nuclear bomb
2) an explosive device called a FCG (Flux Compression Generator)

Either way your car is sure to receive extensive damage from the explosion. Even IF you could invent an EMP generator that did not involve exploding anything...I doubt you would be able to protect your car against the effects and still have the EMP strong enough to knock out the squad car.

On a side note: the cops already have something in testing for delivering an EMP to a car they are chasing. It's a small rocket-powered cart that sits under the front bumper of the squad car. The cart has two large copper fins on top. The cop presses a button, which ignites the rocket motors (the same kind used in model rockets) and drops the cart onto the road. The cart shoots forward underneath the car they are chasing and delivers a few thousand volts into the car's chassis through the two copper fins. Having all of its electrical circuits fried has the result of shutting off the engine and bringing the car gently to a stop :smirk:

I suppose you could build one of these and mount it under your back bumper then fire it backwards towards a cop's car....but in this day and age that sort of thing would most likely be considered "terrorism" and land you in some federal holding center with no access to a lawyer :wink:


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3170625 - 09/23/04 05:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

that's some crazy shit.
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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3170793 - 09/23/04 06:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You'd probably want to invest in some kind of bulletproof shielding too, seeing as nobody is going to be calling an ambulance if they shoot your ass with their non-electronic guns.  :smirk:


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3170952 - 09/23/04 07:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

OLD vehicles (pre ~80-82) are not effected the same way by an EMP. The worst that would happen is it would take out everything with a fuse... but the vehicle would still run. You just might loose power stearing/breaks and the radio


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: Suffer]
    #3171000 - 09/23/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I see you don't know much about cars.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3172057 - 09/23/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i always thought of trying to procure some of that paint used on the stealth bomber.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: Suffer]
    #3172356 - 09/23/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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OLD vehicles (pre ~80-82) are not effected the same way by an EMP. The worst that would happen is it would take out everything with a fuse... but the vehicle would still run. You just might loose power stearing/breaks and the radio




No an EMP would still shut that engine down no problem. The current induced in wires by an EMP can ramp up to millions of volts in a fraction of a second. It would completely destroy any wire coils (alternator, induction coils, ect) quite easily.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: trendal]
    #3172620 - 09/24/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I was going to mention if you fry there car, yours is toast too, but someone beat me to it. :eek:


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: biglo]
    #3172632 - 09/24/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not to mention that there is a chance you could actually kill someone. Up that charge from trafficking, to resisting arrest, to murder :smirk:

(ie: anyone with a pacemaker/defibrilator in their chest who gets hit with an EMP will be doing the old jiggle-jiggle while the machines keeping their hearts going malfuntion and send a large voltage into the heart)


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: trendal]
    #3172966 - 09/24/04 01:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

eh, i dunno... i remember reading something about older cars not working with that device the cops have for some reason. Id look it up but im going to bed, got class in 6 hours.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: Suffer]
    #3174207 - 09/24/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well the device the cops want to use only delivers a few thousand volts directly into the chassis...enough to blow out any sensitive electronics but not enough to melt wire coils or anything like that (they are already designed to handle many tens of thousands of volts at peak).

An actual EMP on the other hand would probably induce a currect of a few million volts which will melt just about any wire you can find in a car.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/ [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3181012 - 09/26/04 12:43 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Just mount a modified microwave to the front inside of your bumper. The radiation will kill every electronic device in a radius. The size depends on how powerfull your microwave is...

The down side is anybody who walkes in front of your car will get cooked, all electronics will get fried ( including your own car unless you shield it...) and it takes alot of electricity to run, so you will have to invest in DC to AC inverter's and alot of alternater's.

Otherwise Enjoy!!


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3521870 - 12/19/04 09:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I once thought of using a Tesla coil like device to jam there radio communications by providing electrical/radio interference.Could someone comment on this to let me know if something like this would work.


Edited by Cosm (12/27/04 11:54 PM)


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3522997 - 12/20/04 02:40 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

too much matrix for somebody.... :rolleyes:


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: zerozero]
    #3524699 - 12/20/04 05:22 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

what do you mean by to much matrix?if you're referring to the Tesla coil i think it would be pretty much harmless as I've seen pics of Nikolai Tesla sitting in the presence of electrical fields while reading a book,I've also seen pics of people sitting on top of the coil itself while electrical discharge were emitted from there head and fingers.As you can see here at http://www.ttr.com/model5.htmland here http://www.ttr.com/model9_page2.htm


Edited by Cosm (12/27/04 11:55 PM)


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: Cosm]
    #3530031 - 12/22/04 01:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

chill winston....

i meant to say that to the opener of this post. my bad..
tesla coils are cool.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: zerozero]
    #3532751 - 12/22/04 08:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Im chillin


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: Cosm]
    #3535989 - 12/23/04 03:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

>>OLD vehicles (pre ~80-82) are not effected the same way by an EMP. The worst that would happen is it would take out everything with a fuse... but the vehicle would still run. You just might loose power stearing/breaks and the radio

FYI a deisle motor has no spark plugs so it needs no electricity to run.. Once its already started.


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Re: installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars [Re: ZippoZ]
    #3550780 - 12/28/04 12:06 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

EMP generators can produce pulses of electromagnetic energy that can destroy the sensitive electronics in computers and microprocessors. Destabilized LCR circuits can produce multi megawatt pulses by using an explosive wire disruptive switch. These high power pulses can be coupled into antennas, conic sections, horns etc for very directional effects. Research is currently being undertaken to disable vehicles thus avoiding dangerous high speed chases. The trick is to generate a high enough power pulse to fry the electronic control processor modules. This could be a lot simpler if the vehicle was covered in plastic or fiber glass rather than metal. The shielding of the metal body offers a challenge to the researcher to develop a practical system. A system could be built that could do this but would be costly, large and produce collateral damage to friendly targets.It doesnt require a bomb to generate an EMP.Our Emp Shock Wave Generators are Available to Qualified Researchers on a Rental Basis with Option to Buy

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copied from http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm




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