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Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle?
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what kind do you have?  where did you buy it at?  did you buy it new?  how much did it cost?  how much does it cost you to drive each month?  what's it like?

the kind of jeep i was going to buy only gets 16 MPG.  :thumbdown:

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: LayYouIn]
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My car is not too bad.  It gets in the upper 20s.  Its a 97 Nissan w/a small engine displacement, manual transmission.  With a manual you can cruise in high gears and save gas.  Plus it only cost about $3000.

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: DieCommie]
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96 Ford Bronco getting about 8mpg due to bad o2 sensors and a 07 Tahoe with cylinder deactivation that averages about 20mpg.

I love the environment.


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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06 nissan sentra and I get about 35 mpg


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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i drive a boat which gets .75mpg :thumbup:

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: DieCommie]
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2007 Prius. Bought it last May, new and fully loaded (sans leather) for $29k. $23 or so plus $4k package and tax and shit.

You can't get them anymore, and the same car today would be 33k+ because of demand. Might find one used but most (92% I think) of current owners gave glorius reviews.

No real downside besides upper 20k pricetag. It's roomy, fun to drive and holds enough for roadtrips. Acceleration is like any 4cyl peppy car... Not a Porsche, but enough to jump into NJ traffic.

It gets an honest 42 MPG and I drive it like a car, not like a hybrid. If I try to hypermile and get every drop in, it's kinda annoying but I can get 52+. I drive 20 miles to work and back 4 days, plus about 150 or so miles doing whatever. I pay about $35 every 10 days, give or take.

Basically, I use a gallon of gas a day. :shrug: If you drive on alot of long roads with no lights and minimal hills, you could rock 50MPG+ easy.

Watch out for gimmicky Hybrids on the horizon. Do the math on fuel savings... Some of those new "hybrid" trucks are still pathetic, and more expensive.

I'm gonna go play XBOX. :goodluck:

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: LayYouIn]
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LayYouIn said:
the kind of jeep i was going to buy only gets 16 MPG.  :thumbdown:



what's more eco-friendly, a 16mpg jeep or 600lbs of lead acid
batteries spilling into the storm drains and sitting in scrap yards

find a gas burner that gets good mileage, my 2000 Ford F-150
averaged 22mpg based on my driving habits

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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1976 CJ7 getting 10 MPG, but hopefully I can swap out the 258 with a Volvo turbo diesel and get that junker rolling off BD.


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Crasher]
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Crasher said:
turbo diesel



is the same as bio-diesel?

i dont know much about cars, so please excuse my ignorance.

i saw a lady driving a bio-diesel car and she had a bio-diesel sticker right below her license plate...so i figure she must be happy with it.  what is bio-diesel though?

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Crasher]
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Quote:
Prius outdoes Hummer in Hummer damage

Chris Demorro
BrookesNews.Com
Monday 21 May 2007

The Toyota Prius has become the flagship car for those in our society so environmentally conscious that they are willing to spend a premium to show the world how much they care. Unfortunately for them, their ultimate ‘green car’ is the source of some of the worst pollution in North America; it takes more combined energy per Prius to produce than a Hummer.

For the tragic political truth about America today is that it is no longer a democracy, with a government run by people elected by voters. Our government is run by unelected federal bureaucracies, Before we delve into the seedy underworld of hybrids, you must first understand how a hybrid works. For this, we will use the most popular hybrid on the market, the Toyota Prius.

The Prius is powered by not one, but two engines: a standard 76 horsepower, 1.5-liter gas engine found in most cars today and a battery- powered engine that deals out 67 horsepower and a whooping 295ft/lbs of torque, below 2000 revolutions per minute. Essentially, the Toyota Synergy Drive system, as it is so called, propels the car from a dead stop to up to 30mph. This is where the largest percent of gas is consumed. As any physics major can tell you, it takes more energy to get an object moving than to keep it moving. The battery is recharged through the braking system, as well as when the gasoline engine takes over anywhere north of 30mph. It seems like a great energy efficient and environmentally sound car, right?

You would be right if you went by the old government EPA estimates, which netted the Prius an incredible 60 miles per gallon in the city and 51 miles per gallon on the highway. Unfortunately for Toyota, the government realized how unrealistic their EPA tests were, which consisted of highway speeds limited to 55mph and acceleration of only 3.3 mph per second. The new tests which affect all 2008 models give a much more realistic rating with highway speeds of 80mph and acceleration of 8mph per second. This has dropped the Prius’s EPA down by 25 percent to an average of 45mpg. This now puts the Toyota within spitting distance of cars like the Chevy Aveo, which costs less then half what the Prius costs.

However, if that was the only issue with the Prius, I wouldn’t be writing this article. It gets much worse. Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.

The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare. “The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants and the soil slid down off the hillside,” said Canadian Greenpeace energy-coordinator David Martin during an interview with the Mail, a British-based newspaper.

All of this would be bad enough in and of itself; however, the journey to make a hybrid doesn’t end there. The nickel produced by this disastrous plant is shipped via massive container ship to the largest nickel refinery in Europe. From there, the nickel hops over to China to produce ‘nickel foam.’ From there, it goes to Japan. Finally, the completed batteries are shipped to the United States, finalizing the around-the-world trip required to produce a single Prius battery. Are these not sounding less and less like environmentally sound cars and more like a farce?

Wait, I haven’t even got to the best part yet.

When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer — the Prius’s arch nemesis. Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles — the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.

The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it. So, if you are really an environmentalist — ditch the Prius. Instead, buy one of the most economical cars available — a Toyota Scion xB. The Scion only costs a paltry $0.48 per mile to put on the road. If you are still obsessed over gas mileage - buy a Chevy Aveo and fix that lead foot.

One last fun fact for you: it takes five years to offset the premium price of a Prius. Meaning, you have to wait 60 months to save any money over a non-hybrid car because of lower gas expenses



http://www.brookesnews.com/072105primus.html


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Same thing happened to me when I played Neil Armstrong in Moonshot. They found me in an alley in Burbank trying to re-enter the earth's atmosphere in an old refrigerator box.

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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Turbo diesel is the engine, but bio-diesel is fuel you can synthesize from vegetable oil. Fort Lewis runs all of the military vehicles on biodiesel right now.


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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My 01 Accord gets over 30 highway =D =D. I'm selling to buy silver though.

8g, 50k miles, any takers? Silver, good condition?

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Just start stealing catalytic converters for the platinum.


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Give me struggle, iron, volcanoes...

Edited by Crasher (06/05/08 08:54 PM)

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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that's really not a bad deal, 50k is low for a honda, especially at 7yrs old

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Crasher]
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Crasher said:
Just start stealing catalytic converters for the platinum.




you sir are my hero...

did this new line of work have all the benefits of meth
addiction or do you have to wait to join the union

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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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A good friend who lives in Oakland has had his cat stolen 3 times.

But who knows, I might find myself jocking some converters in a few months. :meff:


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Crasher]
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I find it funny I keep hearing about the Cat. stealer's. I've had two just sitting in the back of my truck for months open to anyone. Haven't been moved once.  Maybe it's a regional thing. 

I'd consider my old as dirt Yoter 22r truck, but It actually gets horrid mileage. If it's running well(on dead flat open highway) it'll get a good 25+ but thats rare.

My Bike should get like 50+ when i finish it. Twin cylinder British bikes,FTW!


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: CaptainH13]
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So, where u at? :evil:


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: Crasher]
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TESLA ROADSTER


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Re: Who here drives an Electric Vehicle or a Fuel Efficient Vehicle? [Re: LayYouIn]
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Beetle TDI. 35 MPG city and around 45-50 MPG highway.

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