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WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL!
    #4876520 - 10/31/05 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

today i got my first 5 gallons of veg Oil from a grease trap outsied a local pizza place,

I brought it home, and after spilling a hell of a lot and 2 trips to the hardware store i got the grease filtered and its ready to go!

i need 10 more gallons and ill have enough to bring with me detroit so i can drive the car im buying back home for free!


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4876557 - 10/31/05 08:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

1. Ewwww.
2. COOL!

3. me likes environment 2


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4876575 - 10/31/05 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Reminds me of some diesel fuel i saw on TV once from called Willies Diesel Fuel, lol Willie Nelson has his own fuel


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Ramlaen]
    #4876868 - 10/31/05 10:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im going back to the trap, going to try and get atleast 20 some gallons made up by tomorrow ish. hehehehehehe


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4876942 - 10/31/05 10:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what kind of oil mileage you get?


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4877063 - 10/31/05 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I actually saw a commercial on TV yesterday or today about converting to oil.  Thought of you :smile:


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Phychotron]
    #4877107 - 10/31/05 10:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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what kind of oil mileage you get?




Close to what that particular car gets. Ive heard of better or worst MPG usually not much either way maybe 2 or 3 miles more


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: buckwheat]
    #4877463 - 10/31/05 11:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah its about the same depending on what kind of oil it is and how good you filter it.

i just went back to the dumpster, and snagged another few gallons. i have 8 filtered now, im half way home from Detroit!

im thinking that i might actually bring all of the parts i need for the conversion and do it in Detroit before i drive the Benz Home!

but yeah, tomorrow im going to take the passenger seat out of my car, and put in a 30 gallon oil drum, and go around town fillin her up! these 5 gallon trips are some bullshit.

the filter setup all in all cost me about $150. thats = to under 50 gallons of diesel, this shit RawkS!


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4877527 - 10/31/05 11:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The Mr. Hero here has a bin, like a dumpster, that holds around 200 gallons of oil. You gotta try and find one of those bad boys.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4877602 - 11/01/05 12:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you should just ask the restaurant owners for the oil.
they usually have to pay to have it disposed of, so
they'd be glad to just give it to you at no cost to them.
of course, small businesses would be easier...


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4877779 - 11/01/05 12:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ROCK ON BROTHER...BIODIESEL IS WHERE ITS AT......ULL BE THE MAD MAX OF THE PRESENT.......SERIOUSLY....WE ALL NEED TO GET INTO BIODIESEL.....THE WORLD IS COMIN TO AN END AND IF U DONT BELIVE THAT....UD BE A FOOL TO THINK WE ARENT RUNNING OUT OF "NATURAL" RESOURCES. LETS ALL GET A CLUE AND REALIZE, WE CAN BE THE MAD MAX'S (IF U HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE GET IT) OF OUR TIME. THINGS ARE ABOUT TO GO TO SHIT....AND HAVING ANY UP WILL HELP U OUT. U WANA SURVIVE THE APPOCOLYPSE.......BUY A DEISEL ENGINE VEHICLE AND CONVERT IT TO BIODEISEL. ULL BE A TARGET FOR WHATEVER BUT.....ULL HAVE SOMETHIGN THAT CAN RUN ON SHIT THAT WILL BE AROUND.....U HOO KNOW KNOW WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT....LETS ALL GET REAL FOR A SECOND....FUCKERS! SLACKERS! HAHA! JESUS DONT WANT ME FOR A SUNBEAM! I LOVE YOU ALL!


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    #4877825 - 11/01/05 12:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4877940 - 11/01/05 01:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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dr_gonz said:
how much is the car? i've been reading about this for a few years.




he converted a diesel to bio-diesel using a kit, probably
car manufacturers arent into bio-diesel, for obvious reasons.


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    #4877952 - 11/01/05 01:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4877972 - 11/01/05 01:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oh duh
missed that part..
nevermind then


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Vvellum]
    #4878339 - 11/01/05 03:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm... I curious to hear how this winds up, I'm actually quite invested in this story now.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4878389 - 11/01/05 03:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You're actually going to do this? Right on.

What are the drawbacks to doing this?






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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4878432 - 11/01/05 04:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no real drawbacks..
you just need a car that can be converted with one of the kits.

gas mileage is about the same, sometimes better.
runs on free vegetable oil from restaurants.

zippoz will explain the rest...


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Vvellum]
    #4878589 - 11/01/05 08:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha i cant get the images out of my head of people cooking food under their hoods... =P


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Vvellum]
    #4878779 - 11/01/05 10:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What happens when everyone does this and the resaurants run out of oil? I'd imagine that a major city's restaurants could support maybe 100-1000 cars, depending on the city.

What I'm getting at is we need this biofuel to actually be mass-produced and available at every gas station for this to be a permanant fuel solution for mankind. Are there any plans for that?


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    #4878873 - 11/01/05 11:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4878881 - 11/01/05 11:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sweet, yet another reason to support Cannabis/Hemp!


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #4879012 - 11/01/05 12:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well as the big business man that i am, im probably going to go move to AZ, where im going ito contract out peoples oil sources for 5 years. i.e. ill take it away for free, but you have to gaurentee it to me in a signed contract for 5 years. with that ill have a pretty good corner on the grease market. at which point ill be applying for a rendering license, and a bio-d making permit.


for now though, i can go and snag somthing to the tune of 200 gallons today (if i can go gett a drum) and i dont think that anyone else in my town is doing this.


as for the kit, im not going to be buying one, but making a custom one myself. when that works. ill be making kits for other people too.

as for getting the car, you can find lots of old mercedes for pretty cheap. im getting a running late 70's benz and an early 80's w/o an engine for $1000. i just have to figure out how the hell im going to get the non running one back home!

any mroe questions??


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4879039 - 11/01/05 12:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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well as the big business man that i am, im probably going to go move to AZ, where im going ito contract out peoples oil sources for 5 years. i.e. ill take it away for free, but you have to gaurentee it to me in a signed contract for 5 years. with that ill have a pretty good corner on the grease market. at which point ill be applying for a rendering license, and a bio-d making permit.




I had the same idea getting paid for picking up free gas= priceless. You'd need a truck with atleast a 500 gallon tank to pick it up all atonce twice a month or something


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4879150 - 11/01/05 12:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

zippoz said:
well as the big business man that i am, im probably going to go move to AZ, where im going ito contract out peoples oil sources for 5 years. i.e. ill take it away for free, but you have to gaurentee it to me in a signed contract for 5 years. with that ill have a pretty good corner on the grease market. at which point ill be applying for a rendering license, and a bio-d making permit.


for now though, i can go and snag somthing to the tune of 200 gallons today (if i can go gett a drum) and i dont think that anyone else in my town is doing this.


as for the kit, im not going to be buying one, but making a custom one myself. when that works. ill be making kits for other people too.

as for getting the car, you can find lots of old mercedes for pretty cheap. im getting a running late 70's benz and an early 80's w/o an engine for $1000. i just have to figure out how the hell im going to get the non running one back home!

any mroe questions??




:grin:

:bow:

That sounds great for you, you'll be the first in a market that is sure to grow


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a rendering license, and a bio-d making permit




hmmmm. Care to elaborate on that?


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #4879296 - 11/01/05 01:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, or a truck that can hold about 10 55 gal barrels... im working on it :smile:


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4879306 - 11/01/05 01:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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grease market.





:lol:

That sure tickles my fancy.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4879427 - 11/01/05 02:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

bio-diesel is sweet. cheaper than diesel, recycled, and you don't really need much modification for any old-model diesel mercedes, for example.

i'm working with some people here in starting a bio-diesel co-operative. when you go from detroit back to chicago, you could always stop and gas up here! :sun:

actually, the intial batch was a bit screwed up (i'm no chemist, but i guess there was too much loose fatty acid that bonded with the lye, making soap instead of bio-diesel... the chemist who is working with the co-op now has some idea to use acid instead of lye.), but we got a ton of soap :wink: and will soon have quite a bit of bio-diesel.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4879449 - 11/01/05 02:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That was Willy's retirement grease!


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Boom]
    #4879473 - 11/01/05 02:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This is actually really cool, I totally support this and I hope this becomes a standard and mainstream technology in the next five years.

In traffic the other day I saw a Mercedes that had a badge on the back that said "Biodiesel" and a bumpersticker advertising some BioDiesel service in town... I can't remember the name but I remember wondering what it was all about.

Now that I think about it, it might have been Willie's BioDiesel Service, because I remember the name making me laugh. I think I'll google around to see what this is all about.

This new technology is pretty cool but I'm not very optimistic. As soon as it becomes a viable mainstream thing, I can see the cooking oil becoming $5 and becoming illegal to handle or procure for "environmental" reasons :rolleyes:


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4879495 - 11/01/05 02:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PhatWhitey420 said:


This new technology is pretty cool




Theres nothing new about this.Biodiesel is probably older than Petroleum based Diesel.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #4879502 - 11/01/05 02:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Now there's 102 uses for a dead cat


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Vvellum]
    #4879565 - 11/01/05 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bi0 said:
no real drawbacks..
you just need a car that can be converted with one of the kits.

gas mileage is about the same, sometimes better.
runs on free vegetable oil from restaurants.

zippoz will explain the rest...




I'll bet one drawback is that if your car starts acting up, you can't get it worked on anywhere. I can't really think of any other drawbacks, though. If everyone converted their engines, you might run out of restaurants to get free grease from, but gas stations would convert to grease stations.

Hey who was that one Shroomerite chick who converted her van a while back? I don't think she posts here anymore.








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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: Learyfan]
    #4879583 - 11/01/05 02:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can get it worked on. nothing changes you just add another fuel line there's nothing really that special about it. It would void your Warranty but no one ever converts cars that still have warranties.


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Re: WOO HOO, another step closer to driving a veggie car, i gots the OIL! [Re: buckwheat]
    #4879893 - 11/01/05 04:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah theres nothing really special to be worked on, and if you do it yourself youll understand the mechanics better than any shop, and probably be able to do it yourself.

on another note i jsut got a 20 gallon drum from an undisclosed location......

ill be getting another 10 or so gallons today, and hopefullt be off to get the car this weekend.

apparently i can run on a one tank system, just dumping the grease in my tank if i add enough methanol and or kerosene.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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