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"After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said
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that the terrorists only can win if we allow them to force us to change our way of life. Tragically, a change in our way of life has been forced on us - not by terrorists, but by an out-of-control administration seizing ever more power under the guise of fighting terrorism."

Bill Cowan


I found that small quote in my local newspaper, I find it amazing that it actually was published in a widely-read news medium.

Edited by SuperD (06/02/08 01:52 AM)

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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: SuperD]
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Sure.

Some people, especially those here, would have you believe that the entire press is manipulated and controlled by the government because their whack-job theories don't get printed.

But you can still say whatever you want in this country. The press is more free here than almost any place on the globe.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: Madtowntripper]
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I agree completely, it just surprised me as usually statements like that aren't seen in my local paper.


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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: SuperD]
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Quote:
Bill Cowan said: seizing ever more powder


I don't want the terrorists or the government to seize my powder!

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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: ToolTroll]
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:paranoid:


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: SuperD]
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SuperD said:
an out-of-control administration seizing ever more powder


Wait...is this about the drug war? :lol:


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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: SuperD]
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Oh the irony of that statement..
Good find and connection.


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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
SuperD said:
an out-of-control administration seizing ever more powder


Wait...is this about the drug war? :lol:


Oh fuck :lol: Must have had droogz on the mind when typing out this little excerpt from the newspaper.


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Manoa said:
I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin. :lol:

Looking for Rauhocereus riosaniensis seeds or live specimen(s), :pm: me if you have any for trade

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Re: "After the attacks of Sept. 11th, 2001, Bush said [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
Sure.

Some people, especially those here, would have you believe that the entire press is manipulated and controlled by the government because their whack-job theories don't get printed.

But you can still say whatever you want in this country. The press is more free here than almost any place on the globe.



I think a statement like that clearly doesn't come from a background of experience of trying to put out information contrary to the mainstream propaganda.

Just because America has had the most freedom in recent history does not mean our freedoms are not in decline and/or are being actively attacked. It doesn't mean that liberty should never need be defended or improved in the future. Just because we had been the best doesn't mean we should just stop. Anyone tracking the work of We Are Change in the media can clearly tell that simply asking the wrong kind of questions can get you attacked, robbed, tazered, ROUTINELY. Call that freedom of speech and your pissing on flag. Just a minor example that comes to mind.. I mean literally its like a flood lately eroding away our constitution, bill of rights, really America isn't what it was anymore.

Fact is some groups and entities simply have MORE freedom of speech. Yes. America has been great because we live in a place where anyone could go outside and stand on a soap box and be heard. Its just that as globalist power consolidates, the media has been restricted to a particular spectrum. Want to say something real on big time TV? Well good luck because your proportion of truth to airtime is inversely proportional to the probability of getting filtered out of the media before it has any chance of effect within the mainstream media.

What a better fascism than an invisible one? What a better way to enslave than to convince one that he is free? This is you man.

Oh say what ever you want... just it's suppressed..

but your free! PURE DOUBLETHINK.

So go ahead, wave you plastic made in china flag and yell I AM FREE!! I'm sure that outright denial of truth will make 2+2=5


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Edited by prototypical_man (06/02/08 03:13 AM)

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prototypical_man said:
Fact is some groups and entities simply have MORE freedom of speech.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders
Worldwide Press Freedom Index Ranking 2007

Rank Country Note
1 Iceland 0,75
- Norway 0,75
3 Estonia 1,00
- Slovakia 1,00
5 Belgium 1,50
- Finland 1,50
- Sweden 1,50
8 Denmark 2,00
- Ireland 2,00
- Portugal 2,00
11 Switzerland 3,00
12 Latvia 3,50
- Netherlands 3,50
...
48 United States of America 14,50

The US is up from 2006's rank of 53rd, when Reporters Without Borders wrote:
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The United States (53rd) has fallen nine places since last year, after being in 17th position in the first year of the Index, in 2002. Relations between the media and the Bush administration sharply deteriorated after the president used the pretext of “national security” to regard as suspicious any journalist who questioned his “war on terrorism.” The zeal of federal courts which, unlike those in 33 US states, refuse to recognise the media’s right not to reveal its sources, even threatens journalists whose investigations have no connection at all with terrorism.



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You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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