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Add BRF to casing?

#832361 - 08/21/02 07:29 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone tried the addition of BRF into the substrate after being broken up to make a casing? this would add some nutrition to the substrate and give more shrooms i imagine. possibly nuke it for a bit beforehand to avoid contams? just a thought.

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#832378 - 08/21/02 07:35 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

this has come up a few times, and it usually ends up with people saying it is too open to contams.

just go with a nice bit of cow poop, thats what my mum always said

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#832382 - 08/21/02 07:36 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

thanks, but has anyone tried it?

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#832386 - 08/21/02 07:36 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen this discussed before and everyone was against it. Will increase chances of contamination. Even if it is nuked, it is still too nutricious and is not a good idea.

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#832402 - 08/21/02 07:41 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

thanks, but i am not talking about in the casing layer but in with the mycelium itself. has anyone tried it?

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#832404 - 08/21/02 07:43 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

the whole point in putting substrate into jars to incubate should answer your own question..........we wouldnt bother using jars with verm layers and ramsey seals if we could just put it down in a tray like your planning on doing.....unless you have an unbelievable sterile environment, then i wouldnt bother.

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#832407 - 08/21/02 07:43 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Haven't tried it but wouldn't recommend it!
If you want more nutrients use more nutrient rich spawn

Casing are suppose to be a non nutriative layer

So making it nutrient rich is kinda deafeting the pusrpose...

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#832430 - 08/21/02 07:58 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

maybe i am not making myself clear. i am not talking about adding brf to the casing itself. Imagine slicing your substrate into layers after colonization. inbetween one of these layers add sterilized brf to give extra nutrients. hopefully if there are any contams the mycelium will quickly feed into the brf and stop them from getting out of hand. I understand the theory of contams getting in here, i am looking to see if anyone has actually tried it. theory is nothing without experimentation.

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#832476 - 08/21/02 08:20 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

why don't you try it yourself you obviously wanna do it real bad... Cause your not paying any attention to the fact that a casing layer is not suppose to be nutrient rich.
Go for it. then tell us.
you'll have your results then

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#832489 - 08/21/02 08:27 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

sorry, did you miss my restatement. i am NOT talking about adding it to the casing layer! sorry, i hate to yell. i just think people are misunderstanding the question here. i guess i will just have to do it myself.

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#832532 - 08/21/02 08:46 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

ok gotcha!
Just make a more nutrient rich cake. Adding brf between the layers isnt gonna have any real great attributes. If you you add more brf to your pf recipe seems like a better idea.
I don't think anyone has tried slicing a cake into layers then adding brf i may be worng though...

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#832550 - 08/21/02 08:50 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

good...

yeah the slicing layers was just a way to explain what i meant. the reason i want to add it later is because i have specific containers that i use for casing. these can only hold a certain amount of broken up substrate but there are many "pockets" left in between the chunks that i was thinking of throwing in some brf. i certainly realize that i could just break up the cakes into smaller pieces to fill the pockets, but i like to experiment.

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#833138 - 08/21/02 11:04 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

So you are talking about casing it

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#833324 - 08/21/02 12:09 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

dont you hate it when people dont understand what you are trying to say....? LOL i got it, but im new, and havent tried casings yet, so i couldnt tell ya. Just go ahead and try it, doesnt sound like a bad idea.....let us know how it goes if you do try it out

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#833353 - 08/21/02 12:18 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

So what's the verdict everyone? Green or Gray? I'm betting Gray.

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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#833478 - 08/21/02 01:12 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Put $5 on green for me

Lets say it did somehow survive contams it would still be a while before it fruits. The mycelium has to eat all the nutreints before it can begin to pin. If you added BFR the mycelium would have to completely absorb it before it began pinning. That might delay fruiting for a week or two.

Or i could be completely wrong...
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Re: Add BRF to casing?

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#834114 - 08/21/02 05:30 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

If you want for BRF in your caseing why not just use another fully colonized jar? it would be faster and less chance for contams.

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