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Chronic7

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The Ironic Power of Word.
#8030353 - 02/16/08 07:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does anyone else see the irony in the power of the word...
As in the power it can convey, the ultimate power it attempts to convey....yet this is the power it can never possibly convey?
So ultimatley the word has no true power. Its just distraction through attraction and repulsion.
This may be why silent meditation is so highly regarded?
I guess it boils down to sound, is sound an attempt for evolution to awareness or a distraction from it?
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Chronic7]
#8030462 - 02/16/08 08:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Words are like mirrors, imo.
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Chronic7

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i agree, but only a reflection, they can never capture true representation.
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Chronic7]
#8032880 - 02/16/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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chronic777 said: I guess it boils down to sound, is sound an attempt for evolution to awareness or a distraction from it?
As with most phenomena, I think it can be both. As with particles and waves, it depends on how you choose to observe it.
It's true, the word can never completely convey Tao. Reality sits in the very fabric of which the word is made of. Just like a fingertip cannot touch itself, or how we can not see the face out of which we look at the world, in the same way is the word incapable of touching its very essence.
But on the other hand, even though it is powerless in that respect, it is immensely powerful to transform the reality it is made out of.. as carriers for intention, it can communicate fire, water, earth, air, and ether. The word can place seeds, emulate, replicate, and reproduce itself. It can evolve, and thus affect the world, transform it, change it, shape it, build it, even deconstruct it. Choice is what makes it. Where choice comes from, well, that's mystery.
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8032897 - 02/16/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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THE THUNDERWORDS
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8032900 - 02/16/08 09:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's true, the word can never completely convey Tao.
Yet the word itself is Tao, though the Tao is not words!
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Lion]
#8032902 - 02/16/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gomp Moment
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Middleman]
#8032919 - 02/16/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Middleman]
#8032965 - 02/16/08 10:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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macmacmacwhack
Have you read PKD's VALIS? He wirtes some interesting things about the power of Joyce's Thunderwords, and about the descriptions of tape recorders and families gathered around television sets in a book written in 1939.
Marshall McLuhan writes:
"There are ten thunders in the Wake. Each is a cryptogram or codified explanation of the thundering and reverberating consequences of the major technological changes in all human history. When a tribal man hears thunder, he says, 'What did he say that time?', as automatically as we say 'Gesundheit.'
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Chronic7]
#8036948 - 02/18/08 08:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Chronic777 said: Does anyone else see the irony in the power of the word...
As in the power it can convey, the ultimate power it attempts to convey....yet this is the power it can never possibly convey?
So ultimatley the word has no true power. Its just distraction through attraction and repulsion.
This may be why silent meditation is so highly regarded?
I guess it boils down to sound, is sound an attempt for evolution to awareness or a distraction from it?
I just wanted to say: Do we only speak, using words? What about body language? What about applause?
Applause can be used to award someone (standing ovation), and applause can be used to bring someone down (3 people clapping their hands out of 45), ..
Every singular word is much like applause, it has several application..
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8037500 - 02/18/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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chronic777 said: I guess it boils down to sound, is sound an attempt for evolution to awareness or a distraction from it?
As with most phenomena, I think it can be both. As with particles and waves, it depends on how you choose to observe it.
It's true, the word can never completely convey Tao. Reality sits in the very fabric of which the word is made of. Just like a fingertip cannot touch itself, or how we can not see the face out of which we look at the world, in the same way is the word incapable of touching its very essence.
But on the other hand, even though it is powerless in that respect, it is immensely powerful to transform the reality it is made out of.. as carriers for intention, it can communicate fire, water, earth, air, and ether. The word can place seeds, emulate, replicate, and reproduce itself. It can evolve, and thus affect the world, transform it, change it, shape it, build it, even deconstruct it. Choice is what makes it. Where choice comes from, well, that's mystery.
Thats what i call a reply!
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Re: The Ironic Power of Word. [Re: Chronic7]
#8041792 - 02/19/08 07:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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