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SCleROTiUM_LICK
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Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms
#7999907 - 02/09/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Habitat: Found growing from pine needles.
Gills: Decurrent
Stem: varied color from light to dark. Thicker at the top than bottom.
Cap: varied shape and color. Broadly umbonate to plane to campanulate? light to dark.
Spore print: White
Bruising: No noticeable color changes from bruising. There is a blue to green hint to some, but if bruising is involved, it happed quickly upon picking and wasn't reproducible for observation. Bruising seems doubtful.
Location: southeastern USA. Mountain pine forest.





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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
#8000060 - 02/09/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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marasmius or xeromphalina, or something similar.
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CureCat
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: landsnorkler]
#8005655 - 02/10/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, probably something Omphalinoid, Collybioid, or maybe Marasmioid.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: CureCat]
#8006028 - 02/10/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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xmush
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: CureCat]
#8006037 - 02/10/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd go with Omphalinoid, and Xeromphalina at that. That's mainly based on the belly button on those mushrooms. The dark stem goes with that too.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: xmush]
#8006063 - 02/10/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmm... Collybia and Gymnopus both have a "belly button" and dark stipes. Though, I can't remember seeing any orange ones.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: CureCat]
#8006241 - 02/10/08 07:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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True true, but omphalus means belly button. My 15 month old has recently realized that everyone has a belly button, and she likes to go up to people and poke them in the stomach saying belly button.
Here are some I found a couple of years ago.

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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: xmush]
#8006307 - 02/10/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup! those are the same species or something very similar.
I notice they are not growing from pine needles, but that there is still pine litter around.
So I guess Xeromphalina campanella it is. Grows from rotting wood.
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SCleROTiUM_LICK
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: CureCat]
#8006830 - 02/10/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am sure we're close, but these were growing from the needles. Perhaps Xeromphalina cauticinalis.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
#8006945 - 02/10/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah, that one grows on pine debri!
Good job! You got it.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
#8007165 - 02/10/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Xeromphalina was also my first assumption. Everything seems to match up except the ones that I had found in Florida always had veined gills (or abundant cross-veins connecting between the gills). Always very obvious cross-veins. Also I would find them at least once every year but never during winter. During summer and fall. Everything else seems to match up.
Another species in the southeastern United States which is nearly identical to X. campanella, is X. kauffmanii. The latter grows on decaying hard-wood of broadleaf trees, while X. campanella grows around Conifers.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: GGreatOne234]
#8008255 - 02/11/08 10:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe I can tag on this mystery bit:


In the middle of the Xeromphalina cauticinalis, I found one little shroom that appeared to be albino. I assumed it was an albino version of the same.
Sorry for the picture quality. Maybe one thing you can see though is how the shroom cap darkened when I got it home, which is interesting. Any thoughts as to whether it was likely the same or what it might be growing in that same habitat? I'm not expecting a lot as I don't have a lot of info. The specimen was a bit on the smaller end and didn't yield a print for me.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
#8008457 - 02/11/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It looks very different. Probably a different species altogether.
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SCleROTiUM_LICK
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: CureCat]
#8008613 - 02/11/08 12:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol. CureCat, You're probably right. I looked an eternity to find any shrooms before stumbling on this patch. By then, I was sure that these Xomphalina must be the only shrooms fruiting in the state, so naturally I wanted to lump this one lone shroom in close proximity together in my mind.
Does the darkening look like bluing might in a very pale specimen? I wouldn't think so, but its a question. I haven't had the opportunity to observe many bruising specimens.
Just to clarify so that no confusion ensues: The cap fragments behind the held shroom in my last picture belong to a totally different collection.
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Re: Varied and Abundant pine needle shrooms [Re: SCleROTiUM_LICK]
#8008817 - 02/11/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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>Does the darkening look like bluing might in a very pale specimen?
Well that's rather simple. Is it blue? 
I don't see any blue in those photos.
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