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    #7919570 - 01/23/08 11:59 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

what do you guys use? I wanted to start a fairly decent peyote farm.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: flavoraid]
    #7919734 - 01/23/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

IMO floros are best in this order.

T5, T8, CFL then T12.

You can also funk around with custom ballest setups and change things.

I personally use T8s, perkopsis love it.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: Legoulash]
    #7919751 - 01/23/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i do not agree, cacti like lots of light

columnar cacti will get very skinny under fluros but perkopsis will do fine under fluros


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: royer]
    #7919867 - 01/23/08 01:21 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

yea thats true, if you have some tall cacti your going to want somthing that will be strong enough to reflect around your entire enclosure.

But for a peyote farm, floros ftw. :wink:

MH and HPS would be great alternatives aswell.. just gotta deal with heat and not to burn em.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: Legoulash]
    #7919908 - 01/23/08 01:35 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i have grown peyote under cfl's and the pups still get a little etiolated

but if you had enough of them it would prolly be ok

i took out all the cfl's and put up one 400watt hps/mh digital with the hps bulb in, they are growing alot better.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: royer]
    #7920068 - 01/23/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I use two t8s. One is 2800, and one is 2950 lumen. They seem to work fine.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: flavoraid]
    #7921076 - 01/23/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Supposedly, if you punish certain cacti with low light and scaring it will increase the amount of alkaloids that may or may not be present. So you might want to, like, give it lots of light so that doesn't happen.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: fushock]
    #7921247 - 01/23/08 07:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

so t5 is the best fluoro?


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: casgoodie]
    #7921894 - 01/23/08 09:10 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

T5 HO "high output" is the best
my 4 bulb Teklight cost me $300 :eek:


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: cpw1971]
    #7921905 - 01/23/08 09:12 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

arnt all T5s "HO"

im an electrician and its all i ever see.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: Legoulash]
    #7921915 - 01/23/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

i got a 2ft T5 fixture + bulb + reflector for $40 does that sound like the HO?


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: casgoodie]
    #7921976 - 01/23/08 09:26 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

nope HO is marked HO on the bulbs
edit: after doing a search for T5 bulbs all I see is HO also. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
oh wait... I found regular ones for cheaper that aren't HO


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: cpw1971]
    #7922021 - 01/23/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

thanks ladies and gentlemen.

i'm thinking like peyote grafted on pereksiopsis sooo yeah fluorescents it is!


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: flavoraid]
    #7922179 - 01/23/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

T8's would work just fine for that :thumbup:


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: cpw1971]
    #7922293 - 01/23/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

so CFL's are whack?


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: casgoodie]
    #7922380 - 01/23/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

CFL are complete junk if u ask me, but its just my opinion. I think having the disposable built in ballest is non sense so I dont buy em.. Id rather have standard floros.

but yes they will work fine for growing a large assortment of plants, go for 80w per sq foot.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: Legoulash]
    #7922460 - 01/23/08 10:57 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

it sucks to be poor. i'll never have enough money to go hps/mh so it's best to invest in HO T5's i guess (?)


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: casgoodie]
    #7922644 - 01/23/08 11:37 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

T5s are so expensive.

I dun know whats cheapest..... realistically if price is an issue just use a window..

you can always look for deals.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: casgoodie]
    #7922663 - 01/23/08 11:42 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

T8 shoplight fixtures are like $10 and then you gotta buy the bulb and they are cheap.
you can overdrive the bulbs by putting in larger electronic ballasts and make them about as bright as a T5 HO
you can overdrive by as much as 4x by using a 4 bulb ballast to power one bulb. I have had a few sets running at 2x for about 3 years now with no bulb burnouts.


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Re: indoor cacti lighting [Re: cpw1971]
    #7922695 - 01/23/08 11:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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T8 shoplight fixtures are like $10 and then you gotta buy the bulb and they are cheap.
you can overdrive the bulbs by putting in larger electronic ballasts and make them about as bright as a T5 HO
you can overdrive by as much as 4x by using a 4 bulb ballast to power one bulb. I have had a few sets running at 2x for about 3 years now with no bulb burnouts.




how would i go about doing that, i am very ignorant about lighting, just getting into this, i've always just used regular full spectrum T12's


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