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    #7864086 - 01/11/08 09:27 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: soulcircus]
    #7864395 - 01/11/08 10:50 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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im terrified of the consequences of things going wrong.




Can you give some specific examples of consequences you are terrified of?


I think a large psychedelic dose might provide some perspective, but I hope you haven't written off all of the activities in your list as ineffective. I don't know how anyone could have the time or the inclination to give more than a superficial effort to that many different pursuits.

For example, if you've identified 'not letting go' as the source of your problem, then you haven't explored meditation far enough.

I have the same habit of writing off activities and courses of action just because I tried it once or twice and ran into some resistance. Being unwilling to deal with that resistance, I just shut the door and move on to the next one. After not too long I found myself without a lot of options. But this is an illusion. Fear is imposing, but not impassable. Doing things in spite of fear is the only cure, but you have to start small. Giving into fear makes it grow.

Good luck with your trip.


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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7865173 - 01/11/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I would recommend iboga.:heart:


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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #7865360 - 01/11/08 02:40 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I know what ails you. Its similair to what ails me.

I do not accept myself when i do not accept myself.

You similairly cannot let go of not accepting that you cannot let go always.

So what happens is an extreme looping of thoughts, the same question.

You urn to let go. But you cannot let go of things that that you have not yet accepted and recieved fully.

I dont do it.

I simply get illusions by this world, that i deem as reality because they seem to be and once in that illusion, plain and clear, i cannot embrace myself, forgive myself and feel guilty for being in it - unable to bring light to that aspect of what i am, for having turned my back on me.

Maybe we should discuss why we see it alrite to accept things? Especailly ourselves....Invitation to anyone really. Im hungry and i feel like i have over used my mind, but will reply later!

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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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    #7865577 - 01/11/08 03:35 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: soulcircus]
    #7875957 - 01/13/08 09:41 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

What happened when you went to counseling?


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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: Cakes]
    #7876264 - 01/13/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

When you dissociate are you aware that you are doing it? Perhaps in this state you could try reasoning yourself into exploring the boundaries of the places you dissociate from. Don't force it too hard, just play along the edge and try different ways of thinking about/relating to the stuff that comes up. This is kind of vague I guess, but I don't know you or your specific issues so I can't really give specific advice.


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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7876312 - 01/13/08 10:55 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I say go for it!
A big dose of san Pedro would be eating like 4 feet of cacti. And that shits nasty! I'd eat like an ounce of shrooms. Dry


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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: Cubie]
    #7876633 - 01/14/08 12:24 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

you're going for a 'hail mary' with this drug shit and your mind. body, and sanity is on the line. I would say definitely DO NOT use any psychedelics looking for the quick fix, it can fuck you up in a bad way if things don't go over well. I am speaking as a person who has had multiple bad trips, and some that could be classified as psychotic meltdowns.... it takes time to heal from these things, and the best, and healthiest way to do it is by having a clear head. Don't roll the dice with your mind man, it is the only one you have, or will have...

Work hard, have faith, and have patience; in time things will get better for you, and you will be on here convincing people in your current position to do the same... Psychedelics are a gamble bro, when it comes to your mind you need to really err on the side of caution.


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    #7877055 - 01/14/08 03:53 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Toying with idea, of "just going for it" [Re: soulcircus]
    #7886725 - 01/15/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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soulcircus said:
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Cakes said:
What happened when you went to counseling?




not much, it just ends up going in circles really.




you can prevent this by doing therapy in an elongated, rectangle shaped room, as opposed to the more circle friendly square. life is full of obstacles...


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