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Help home recording musicians!
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ARG!  I've been comfortably using cool edit 2.1 for about 2-3 years now and even though I haven't used half of what's available to me in that program, I feel it's time to move up.

This transition is becoming rather difficult and frustrating.

I finally got the ambition 6 months ago to acquire some new software.  From what I've read on here and the internet, I decided to go with Sonar 6.

...and it was met with hassles.  I got all these alert/error messages saying I didn't have this driver, or wrong input, etc, etc, etc.  Needless to say, I couldn't record anything.  I've chalked it up to my computer being an outdated piece of shit(which it is...this machine is hurting).

So I continued with cool edit as it worked good and I'm comfortable with using it.  Well today, I decided to try something that wasn't quite as advanced.  I've heard good things about fruityloops.  I'm especially interested with messing around with midi and vst stuff for the first time.

So it installs good and for awhile, I messed around with a few of the cool plug ins and features that the program has.  And I have to say WOW!  It is WAY more advanced than cool edit, that's for sure.  Like all this virtual bass, drums, guitar, piano crap...I can play my keyboard.  I thought that was kind of neat.  It has kind of made my head spin of how much more involved it is, but I'm sure I could get used to it.  I love the interface as well.

Unfortunetly there is problem though.  When I tried to record audio  through my mic, it said it's not supported and I have to pick an audio input...then it brings up a menu where I have a choice between my primary sound driver and 3 others...and when I select either of them, noise just starts coming out of the speakers and it just sounds all screwy...basically the sound of defeat.

When I dug further it said something about my sample rate not being compatible and it had a slider bar to pick a new sample rate.  Didn't matter where I put it, it wasn't compatible.

Am I having so many problems because my computer(namely my soundcard) is out of date?  I don't even really know what kind of soundcard I have.

It's a huge downer because I want to start trying new things and experimenting more with recording at home...and I can't it seems unless I fork out the large amounts of money for a new computer

:frown:

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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Spooge]
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Did you ever buy a sound card or are you using the built in sound system?


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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Toddo]
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You can get something pretty decent, with a nice midi/RCA/ 1/4 cable in out, for like 70-100. Your other stuff sounded pretty damn good for what you were using.. I wouldn't have guessed it.

I hear you on not using programs to their max. I beat myself up over that. Its something thats really important to do...learn the tools your using in and out. Just set aside a couple nights to pure learning. Training videos, reading helps, watching demos......its going to teach you the most import lesson when working with this stuff: efficiency. Most of the special features we never bother learning is usually put there to help make the process faster for us.

I know it can be a bitch sitting there and not making music...but it really is worth it.

Oh, and about your sound card: You can just check device manager. click Start--->right click my computer ----> Manage --->Device manager. Just find the audio section and post what it says.


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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Toddo]
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hey thanks for the input toddo :smile:

Your totally right about setting some time aside to learn the ins and outs of a program.  I should do that with cool edit, but I have a lack of motivation in the fact that I know I'm trying to move to a new program...as soon as my hardware will allow it anyway :tongue:  I'm making a vow to myself really browse the tutorials, videos and anything else available when I move onto the next program(I'm very interested in Fruitloops)

So onto what it says under my audio section

It says I have: 
Avance AC97 audio
Legacy Audio Drivers
MPU-401 compatible MIDI device

And yep, that's the stock soundcard.  Good or bad news?

Thanks again :cool:

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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Spooge]
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man, i love cool edit pro! it wonderfully handles all the live sound recording i throw at it. and it does all the mixing and mastering that could be needed without any problems. i'm using CEP2 btw. if you are using the old skool cool edit, i would suggest CEP2. it has a 128 track multi-track recording feature that the non-pro versions have.

for any of the other stuff like midi and sequencing i use reason 2.5. it has like 2 awesome synths, 2 great samplers, a very good drum machine, awesome effects units, and it is all easy to use. well, easy as in it's interface is like actually using rack-mounted devices. if you understand synths, it is easy to use. if you don't there is a very good help file that breaks down everything knob by knob.

it isn't good, however, for live midi because there is a 1/2 sec lag between hitting a key on the kb and hearing the sound. i'm not sure if that is my computer or the software or just the nature of midi but i can handle it for the use of the awesome synths.


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Edited by chubbycharley (12/23/07 01:17 PM)

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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: chubbycharley]
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chubbycharley said:
it isn't good, however, for live midi because there is a 1/2 sec lag between hitting a key on the kb and hearing the sound. i'm not sure if that is my computer or the software or just the nature of midi but i can handle it for the use of the awesome synths.


Thats just your computer. If you get a better sound card thats geared towards music production you won't have any latency issues. Reason is a good program. But using it as a standalone sucks. Its better to rewire it into a more professional DAW.

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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Osker246]
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So onto what it says under my audio section

It says I have:
Avance AC97 audio
Legacy Audio Drivers
MPU-401 compatible MIDI device

And yep, that's the stock soundcard. Good or bad news?



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Re: Help home recording musicians! [Re: Osker246]
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Osker246 said:
chubbycharley said:
it isn't good, however, for live midi because there is a 1/2 sec lag between hitting a key on the kb and hearing the sound. i'm not sure if that is my computer or the software or just the nature of midi but i can handle it for the use of the awesome synths.


Thats just your computer. If you get a better sound card thats geared towards music production you won't have any latency issues. Reason is a good program. But using it as a standalone sucks. Its better to rewire it into a more professional DAW.


i have an M-Audio Delta 1010LT, very geared towards music production :tongue:

but it is only on a PIII 1ghz so i bet that's the problem.

say, how would you go about rewiring it into another DAW? do programs like pro tools allow you to use everything as additional plug-ins?


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