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Computer recording w/ keyboard
    #3096076 - 09/05/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This could go in here or in science and tech but I this is probably a better place to put this ...

I have this old keyboard that I am able to plug into my computer. It uses this cable which I have a picture of below. I was wondering how I could record with this, or at least get sound from it through my computer. I thought that someone may be able to determine this by the kind of cable it uses to connect.



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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3096087 - 09/05/04 09:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

umm that looks very unfamiliar to me...... it should have a midi-out port on it somewhere, and then you would want to purchase a soundcard with midi-in... Then you're in business.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3096095 - 09/05/04 09:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is there any way I could use this?


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3096121 - 09/05/04 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tell me what the model number and manufacturer of that keyboard are pleasee


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3096137 - 09/05/04 09:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, it isn't necessarily a real keyboard. If I remember correctly it came with some software designed to teach young kids how to play the piano. I found it at my parents house and thought I might be able to use it.

Manufacturer: Jump music

I can't find the model number, would the serial number help at all?


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3096287 - 09/05/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well I found a few reviews for the jump music keyboard and from what I've read, it is MIDI - you need to get a MIDI cable and a MIDI soundcard.

I have no idea what the hell those other cords are for


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3097143 - 09/06/04 01:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like a serial or parallel cable
May require opening up your computer's casing to attach (if a serial cable).

These websites may be of some help to you:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rongonz/home_rec/midi.html
http://www.digitalmusicworld.com/html/hardware/ConnectingPCs/MidiTutorialP1.php

Good luck!


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3097849 - 09/06/04 04:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Man...we are so spoiled with USB and Firewire.

Those are older serial cables. I remember a soundcard I had with some serial connections. I believe it was for a joystick though.

Any decent computer store will sell serial cables that you can add to your computer. You shouldn't have to open anything up to attach them.

I wouldn't bother buying anything unless you have some software that came with the computer...or finding a driver on the internet..because I doubt your computer would detect that thing. I could be wrong though.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3097960 - 09/06/04 05:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You need a sound card with a midi port:



With this sound card pictured (the Fortissimo II) I have an option in the drivers to adjust volume and such on the midi, I've never used it.. but I believe it would function just as a line-in would for audio signals.



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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: MilkyMedia]
    #3098699 - 09/06/04 01:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no shit its serial but serial ports cannot relay large amounts of audio data..

I say go with midi and stop trying to figure out the other ones. They're probably for keyboard accessories


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3129732 - 09/13/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, above where that cable connects into the keyboard it says "computer" and I found a place to plug it on, its an onboard port on my motherboard. 

But yes, this is VERY old, and I guess I won't be able to get it to work unless I used MIDI.  I guess i'll have to start saving up for a new soundcard :frown:

MilkyMedia: I think you about the software issue, this was part of a bundle that was used probably around 9 years ago ...


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3130024 - 09/13/04 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Strumpling said:
no shit its serial but serial ports cannot relay large amounts of audio data..




i dont know if i would call midi data "large amounts of audio data."

so yes you can buy a sound card with a midi-in port, but if youre actually wanting to be serious about this, i would say get a newer midi keyboard and some software like reason. its a little hard to learn if you havent used anything like it before, but once you get the hang of it its pretty simple.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Vats of Blood]
    #3131014 - 09/13/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"i dont know if i would call midi data "large amounts of audio data.""

oh yeah you're right - midi data is like almost nothing, but serial ports I don't think have anything to do with it...


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Red]
    #3131017 - 09/13/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and hey that soundcard pic you posted, it has a port on it that looks a lot like serial... perhaps that is the S/PDIF or something that I hear so much about but have no clue what it is? :wink:


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3131086 - 09/13/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No, S/PDIF looks just like RCA inputs. I have in/out on my Audigy Platinum eXT box (thanks LDS :wink: ).

That is quite the mystery plug...


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: aje]
    #3131360 - 09/13/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You don't need a new sound card if you have an open usb port you can get a midiman midisport or a different brand of MIDI interface.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: SKINNYDOGGY]
    #3133740 - 09/14/04 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

word, you like skinny puppy?

good to hear people on here are doing keyboard stuff.. i just got one and have been playing it constantly. mine is also MIDI but i haven't fucked with it yet, or ever done anything with it at all.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Blastrid]
    #3133883 - 09/14/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Blastrid said:
No, S/PDIF looks just like RCA inputs. I have in/out on my Audigy Platinum eXT box (thanks LDS :wink: ).

That is quite the mystery plug...




S/PDIF can come as an Optical or RCA input.
it is a purely digital signal limited to two channels.
if the Optical is S/PDIF ADAT it has eight channels.


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Blastrid]
    #3134011 - 09/14/04 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah well my soundcard has a thing like that too and apparently you plug this thing into it that has two rca-type wires sticking off of IT..

I could be wrong though - I've never messed with it


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Re: Computer recording w/ keyboard [Re: Strumpling]
    #3157122 - 09/20/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That serial plug on your keyboard?

It should go right into your soundcard. :wink:

Most MIDI interfaces (at least pre-USB) were just an adapter cable that converted a serial plug on one end into 2 din(MIDI) cables. Now you don't have to worry about that! :laugh:

You can use pretty much any MIDI sequencer to capture the MIDI data. I wouldn't worry too much about how fast the data'll transfer - not only are MIDI signals simply *single* 8-bit words, but I also have a midisport usb 2x2 hooked up to other synths alongside my soundcard's serial port going to my SR-16. No latency between the three instruments. :smile:

Oh yeah, I'm from the Nook and I saw this thread from Google so I thought I'd add my .02. :P


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