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Offlinegrimio
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Meditation Tips Needed
    #772464 - 07/24/02 08:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Never really meditated before and was curious as to the best methods to do while shrooming and while preparing to shroom.


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: grimio]
    #772582 - 07/24/02 09:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There's lots of stuff on the web. Search for it.


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: grimio]
    #772628 - 07/24/02 09:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well i meditate, while shrooming, before, and do a normal meditation every day. Well there is numerous ways to meditate. My way, is to meditate on a inspirational passage, one that is positive, and proven through the ages. You can either sit on the ground with your legs crossed in any manner, however keep a stright back always. If you can't do that due to back problems or just don't like to sit on the floor, fit a chair with arms, and sit straight up in that. Once you have a good sitting position, close your eyes lighty and begin to go slowly, in your mind, through the words of your selected passage. Let each word drop like pearls into your mind.

In the starting days if not weeks, you will have a hard time focusing, you may not be able to sit still long. Your mind wanders off alot in the early days, but you have to push through this, just pull your attention back to the passage. In time your meditation WILL get deeper, and less distractions will come into play. However many, many people give up after a few tries, if you really want the benfits of meditation its no easy thing, you have to work hard at it. In time it will come, it must come.

I highly suggest you don't just do meditation during your trips, or to just prepare for it, for this powerful art brings stillness to the mind and will help you get through any challenges in life. Ok you wondering what this passage is, i recommed you start with the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi. Even though this passage has the words "lord" it does not have any religion prefence at all. Well here it is.

Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy.

O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
To be consoled as to console,
To be understood as to understand,
To be loved as to love;
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
It is in dying to self that we are born to eternal life.


Ok basically that's all the basics of meditation to get you started. However once you start it on a regular basis and get deeper into it, you may want to get guidness from a teacher, for some later levels are harder to break through. I myself am no expert at all, only been doing it for 5 months or so.

Well hope i helped, any questions feel free to ask!



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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: Cougheeman]
    #772697 - 07/24/02 10:12 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

exacly where would you find a "teacher"?


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: ]
    #772717 - 07/24/02 10:24 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well there is many teachers in different parts of the world. You could also go to meditation meetings and such that are held in many cities across the nation. There are very experienced people who can guide you through later steps. However you will only need a teacher once you have been doing meditation for quite some time, iam guessing 1 1/2 years 2 years.


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: grimio]
    #772730 - 07/24/02 10:33 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I meditate on my breathing. Breathing is a good focal point in meditation. It's a bridge between the automatic and voluntary nerves. Just focus on your breathing. Feel your breathing, be your breathing, focus only on the breathing. This is not easy at first and takes alot of practice. If you only meditate to prepare for tripping or during a trip, then you're going to have to do alot of tripping before you get any good at meditation. It's really an every day thing, and the benefits are much greater than just better trips. There's alot of info on the web and in your bookstore. Zen Buddhists are the masters.


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: ]
    #775258 - 07/25/02 08:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i agree with the Breathing method.
focus on your breath, making sure it is one relaxed, continuous breath. when you breath in, don't stop before you breath out, and make sure your exhale is roughly the same length as your inhale. once you get a very smooth relaxed slow rhythm going, its easy to start clearing out the world around you.


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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: Blastrid]
    #776287 - 07/25/02 04:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There are two main categories of meditation: stabilization and analytical.

Stabilization aims to calm the mind and the body into calm abiding; a total stillness of mind and thought. The Buddha taught shamatha (awareness of the breath) in several stages to help everyone starting to meditate to first learn how to achieve calm abiding. Analytical meditation is where you use visualization and contemplation techniques to develop insight and wisdom.

There are many different schools of meditation...find those that speak to you personally and ones you would be most comfortable doing.

Just do a Google search...there's plenty of reputable dharma centers and websites that can get you started.

Peace,

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Re: Meditation Tips Needed [Re: ]
    #776291 - 07/25/02 04:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

>>Zen Buddhists are the masters

That's rather biased. All traditions and lineages have respectable "masters."

Regardless of which tradition, all have beautiful techniques and methods to achieve calm abiding and develop insight and wisdom. The goal is what's important...don't get confused by the paths that lead to it.

Love & Light,

Boppity


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