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PF for simple minds...
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I noticed the simple minds tek contains less than half of the amount of BRF than the standard PF Tek.

How does that affect yeild? Would 1 dry Oz. be normal for 20 half pint cakes?



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Edited by Baby_Hitler (07/21/02 08:27 PM)

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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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If you're doing 20 cakes, why not just do cased bulk substrate? That'll certainly improve your yields...

(Sorry that I can't answer your other question).

-psyco


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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Could you please go to the PF website, look at the amounts used there again, and then post the comparison again? Thank you!


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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Anno]
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Arent you the author of the PF for simple minds Anno? Dont get all pissed if Im wrong and a newbie


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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Anno]
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Arent you the author of the PF for simple minds Anno? Dont get all pissed if Im wrong and a newbie


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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Good question, Im not exactly sure on the less yielding part, with cakes, Im sure Anno could shed some light on that one for you

As for a dry quanity like that you will most likely want to try some bulk substrate like psyconaut said or at least some casings. Sorry not much help, but good luck!

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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Anno]
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b]PF:

1/8 cup of brown rice powder (Health food stores and co-ops)
1/2 - 2/3 cup of horticultural vermiculite (medium grade) (garden centers and hardware)
40-45 cc's (milliliters) of water or (a little less than 1/4 cup) (1&1/2 ounces) (3 tablespoons + 1 teaspoon)

Maximum fruiting formula:
1/4 cup of brown rice powder
1/2 cup of vermiculite
60 cc's water

Simple Minds:

For one 1/2 pint jar(236 ml) you will need:
=> 140 ml vermiculite
=> 40 ml brown rice flour
=> some vermiculite to fill the jar to the top (app. 20 ml)
=> water


OK, if I got my numbers right 40 ML BRF is nearly a 1/4 cup, which is closer to the "Maximum fruiting formula".

I wonder if I screwed that up, because when I was making it, I was thinking I was using less BRF than PF.

I'm trying to remember what I did.

I think I mixed one scoop of BRF to three of vermiculite. Each batch was enough for 6 cakes with 1/2 to 3/4 inch vermiculite on the top.

It's a good thing I've been out of weed for the last 2 months, or I would never have remembered that.



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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: psyconaut]
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Those cakes are already on their way out the door. I have 11 left. 3 were done with WakingUp Late's "dry tek".

The air here is full of mold and mildew. I'm currently putting together a bulk plan. You may have read in an earlier thread that I am experimenting with worm castings.

I chucked part of a cake in with some castings to see what would happen. Not much so far.



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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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PF classic;1/8cp = 30 ml
PF-Tek for Simple Minds: 40 ml
PF maximum formula: 60 ml

As you see the amount used is inbetween, closer to the standard formula.

I found that this amount gives the optimum water content of the jars, if you saturate the vermiculite to the field capacity first like described in the PF-Tek for Simple Minds.

If you use more or less BRF, then you would have to adjust the water content, and this would make the tek less foolproof.


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Edited by Anno (07/21/02 08:04 PM)

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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Anno]
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My 3 to 1 mix did OK, No contams at birth, took about 2-3 weeks for 100% at usually around 84 degrees.

I let them sit for about another week after 100%. I cold shocked one in the fridge, and some ice formed on the lid, but I don't believe the cake was harmed. I exposed it to light, and was going to do invitro on it, but the first shrooms stopped growing at around 1 inch.

So I birthed it, and it fruited about a dry gram.

A few days later I started exposing the rest of the cakes to light, and birthed them as pins occured. After the first few I just birthed the whole lot.

I'm pretty sure I screwed up by just picking shrooms as the veil broke instead of doing the whole cake at one time. I lost track of what had been partially picked, and I think some of them rotted on the cake. I cleaned them off with a knife, but I started getting some kind of sudden death syndrome. fruits would start out ok, then turn into a blue/black goop within a matter of hours.

Shrooms that looked good one night, were slime the next morning.

I started tossing cakes that were showing "sudden death". About that time I started seing green and grey spots on some cakes. One of these I used in my worm castings experiment.

I just had one cake with sudden death fruit a couple of decent siamese twins that yeilded about 1g. dry and healthy as a horse.



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Re: PF for simple minds... Less BRF = less yeild? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Good job

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Re: PF for simple minds... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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"PF for simple minds = less yeild?"

Nope!

Dunk before your first flush for maximum yeilds. I like the cold-shock dunk treatment on PF cakes (when I dont case) which is simplying filling the jar with tap water and storing in the fridge for 12hrs. Good luck!



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Re: PF for simple minds... [Re: phrozendata]
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Yeah, I was going to dunk some and compare the differences, but I got lazy and double ended all of them.

I also didn't remove the origional vermiculite from the cakes when I birthed. I'm wondering if that contributed to the problem(s).

If anybody's wondering, it was PF Classic.



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Re: PF for simple minds... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I usually just scrape any loose vermiculite and leave the rest of the layer on. A lot of mushrooms seem to pop up from there!


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Re: PF for simple minds... [Re: phrozendata]
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It's funny. All 3 of my dry tek jars colonized the entire vermiculite layer in the jar.



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