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Offlinehazeblaze
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    #671081 - 06/10/02 06:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

It's been about 4 days since I innoculated my jars and there's no colonization that I can see. I used aluminum foil instead of the canning lid. I placed another sheet of foil over the one with the four injection holes to prevent contamination...should I not have done this? Do the jars need access to air circulation?


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: hazeblaze]
    #671089 - 06/10/02 06:47 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

re-read the pf tek and youll have the answer to all your questions.


>>It's been about 4 days since I innoculated my jars and there's no colonization that I can see.
normal

>> I used aluminum foil instead of the canning lid. I placed another sheet of foil over the one with the four injection holes to prevent contamination...should I not have done this?

no, you should have followed the tek

>>Do the jars need access to air circulation?
No, if this was the case why should you have wasted your time sterilizing everything?


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: hazeblaze]
    #671132 - 06/10/02 07:10 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I use foil all the time and it works fine. I use 3 sheets however. Have a look at http://www.fungifun.org/ (I can't find the exact page, site seems down).

Hope that helps.


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: shianggu]
    #671164 - 06/10/02 07:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, Anno said the server was going to be down for several days. But I used his TEK and all 10 of my jars are on Day 11 of the grow, 2 are at 100% colonized with the remaining jars all over 80% colonized.

I think the foil lid structure allows just the right amount of air exchange...at least the Mazatapecs seem to like it! hehe

My advice is to find a TEK you want to use and stick to it exactly as that TEK describes. I followed Anno's TEK to the letter and I'm having 100% results.

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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: hazeblaze]
    #671221 - 06/10/02 08:04 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You might be OK if you wiped your edges really really good, and put alot of vermiculite on top.

You're going to have to handle those jars carefully if you're going to handle them at all. Definitely leave the top layer of foil on.

Next time use the lid if at all possible.

Why didn't you use the lid?



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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: hazeblaze]
    #671227 - 06/10/02 08:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Always use the lids that come with the jars. Personally, I am a big fan of the ramsey seal. As a newbie, you really should follow directions as written, after you get the hang of it, then it is time to improvise. Just my $.02

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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: Boppity604]
    #671278 - 06/10/02 08:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

A temporary home of the PF-Tek for Simple Minds is here:

http://www.geocities.com/kickme_to_mushrooms/pf/pf_en.htm

The fungifun.org server should be back online in a few days.


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: Anno]
    #671301 - 06/10/02 08:55 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You know, that tek only casually mentions the use of lids as a side note.

What's up with that?



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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: hazeblaze]
    #672589 - 06/11/02 05:16 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the replies guys...I started to recognize colonization last night though...and looking at it this morning it seems to be picking up rather fast! I believe the AC had my room to cool...I set the jars in a warmer temp and noticed change in no time.

PS...I used foil instead of shopping for a nail and hammer for the lids...working great so far!


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #672609 - 06/11/02 05:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Believe me it works very well . I can't find canning jars where I live and I've been using drinking glasses with foil and haven't lost any to contams. My grain adventures are another story though....


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #674099 - 06/12/02 03:17 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

>You know, that tek only casually mentions the use of lids as a side note.

If you have canning jars with lids, you can off course use them.
The foil lid works on any type of jar or glass though.


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Re: Newbie on PF Tek [Re: Anno]
    #674635 - 06/12/02 11:27 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The PF Tek DOES mention how to use something other than the lids that come with the jars, so I don't see a problem with using tin foil. I prefer the lids though, since they did come with the jars. (i don't like to waste money, hehe).

Good luck, I'm using the PF Tek for the 1st time, too. I started out with only 5 jars, just in case I messed something up. Good I did, too, because I had overhead light for heat (i figured I'd need it, my room is in the basement and we only have a wood stove for heat, which we don't run in the summer). It ended up drying out all my jars. I've started my other 5 since then with no light. It is still pretty mild for temp., so I have slow growth, but my 3 jars that are left are doing great ( 1 was contaminated with mold, the other with some black stuff).
I just figured I'd throw in my experience for you since we're both new at the PF Tek.


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