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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75466 - 05/08/00 07:41 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

UM chuck IT OR eat IT doesn't realLy MATTER but you NEED to get some spore PRINTS OF THOSE!


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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75468 - 05/08/00 08:19 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Do you mean I need prints for identification purposes? or to share? I have prints from more fresh samples.

I have picked many meanies. these had the shape but the looked beat up from rain and sun. When the juice turned blue I felt it was positive ID.

They were in the same patch from where I picked the cubies and meanies in my previous post about salad. This is now two days later and is why these ones are so old. Maybe I should get rid of them and wait for more. It is raining again after all. will entertain any comments.For the moment I Will leave them drying.



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75469 - 05/08/00 08:34 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry Sean
Forgot you reuested prints on my old post. I would appreciate some knowledge like you offered. Possibly on how to get the spore distributed properly or even creating a small patch. I have ample cow poo, hay, prints, and live tissue samples when I do not gobble every crumb(like usual). The weather is ideal.

so you would agree on their ID but what about their state? When are they too gross?



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75470 - 05/08/00 08:50 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

beesly: I sent you an email a couple days ago on How to Positively Identify a Copelandia's Bluing...Did you recieve it?

The blue 'juice' as you call it that stained the paper is an alright indicator, but it is not positive. I would not eat them. And just because you found them in the same area you usually find copelandia's, does not mean other mushroom species will not grow there the next day.

Excercise extreme caution when Identifying and Consumeing copelandias. If you can find big mooshy ones, than you can also go find Fresh ones. Do that instead.

I would not eat them. Half of the copes I have found, I wasnt sure about either. Dont eat that shit.

G1



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75471 - 05/08/00 09:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I will chuck these GG. Thanks I almost forgot, in doubt chuck em out. No worries. I can find more

I just read you mail now. I never have had problem identifying the copes here before. But I never did ID by the prints. They have the distinctive cone head. These aussie ones blue majorly. The one pic I posted has a little one blueing on the cap. If I do not see any blue I will not chance it. I have seen the look a likes that drop messy black spores after picked and will not blue. The stems are more brittle and whiter. I stay away.



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75472 - 05/08/00 11:01 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

a friend of mine stupidly ate shrooms he thought were pan cyans, lucky for him they were nontoxic, bad move though.

i have a passion for the potency of pan cyans, i am cultivating floridian pan cyans, my home state, and i recently ordered three cambodia pan cyan prints from workman, i hae been isolating individual spores under my microscope and germinating individual spores on agar medium, oonce the primary mycelium from the single spore isolates covers three fours of the dish i transer the primary to more dishes, i am making a bredding program i have created a cross between two primary mycelium that showed extremly beautiful rhizomorphic growth, but for some reason the secondary mycelium was fucking cottany, don't know why but i am trying to isolate a create a breeding program to widen the gene pool and i am going to cross work mans cambodia pan cyan with my florida, if i could get a print of the aussie pan cyan i would include it in my little experiment. i want to create a super strain.



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75473 - 05/08/00 03:21 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

You should not pick unhealthy mushrooms, only healthy. Copelandia cyanescens always break up real easy and blue intensely after human handling,
Here is a picture of some normal large Copelandia cyanescens shrooms from Oahu, Hawaii.

and here are some caps drying to make sporeprints from Copelandia cyanescens. These were collected at the University of Hawaii's Livestock And Experimental Farm on the North Shore of Oahu, Hawaii.

. Large is not a problem in large or small fields. It depends on the length of the grass or the shaded areas the shrooms are growing in. If it is in a wooded or fest area by the pastures then the shropoms tend to get very large, ewspecially in tall grassy areas.

Also these mushrooms sometimes have up to two hundred shrooms in eaach cow pie and should be picked and placed in a paper bag and the bag should be carried like it was a cup of hot coffee or tea. very carefully and not shaken around a lot. This will cause less oxidation to the chemicals in the shrooms.

Never, Never place them in plastic bags as theny tend to rot and collect bacteria and lose potency from touching each other.

mj

and Sean1234, Those are my Copelandia cyanescens that Workman is growing from my spores which I brought back from Cambodia, not Panaeolus cyanescens as you referred to them.

Also, Copelandia (panaeolus) Ccyanescens has been reported from Florida, as well as Copelandia chlorocystis and Copelandia westi
and unless you actually hafve microscopy equiptment to separate the three species then you really do not know which one it is that you have.


mjshroomer

[This message has been edited by mjshroomer (edited May 08, 2000).]



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75474 - 05/08/00 04:49 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

mjshroomer wrote:


"Also, Copelandia (panaeolus) Ccyanescens has been reported from Florida, as well as Copelandia chlorocystis and Copelandia westi
and unless you actually hafve microscopy equiptment to separate the three species then you really do not know which one it is that you have."


Thank you for this info mj.

Hmmmmm ???



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Re: to eat or not to eat this blue meanie, check the photo please
    #75475 - 05/09/00 01:40 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

hey mj,

i will send you some samples and spore prints of the mushrooms i am cultivating which i suspect to be copelandia cyanescens, they are very potent. maybe you can identify them, i have a feeling they are the cope cyans because of their extreme potency, two and 1/2 grams is equal to like 5-6 grams normal psilocybe cubensis in my opinion, the trip between pan cyans (cope cyans) and psilo cubes is a lot different, i have eaten cope cyans from amsterdam and the mushroom i have growing are similar in potency to these.



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