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Anonymous #1

I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of).
    #7434836 - 09/20/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

There was an offer in a nearby animal shop and I bought twenty mice for $10.

I estimated their LD50 to be around 5mg. So I dosed 5mg each, and after 24 hours 11 of them passed out.

The problem is that I threw all the mice at the trash and forgot to weigh them.

I'll check is the offer is still available and share results.


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Anonymous #2

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7434846 - 09/20/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: Holy shit, that is both fucking hilarious,

























and seriously fucking cruel!:kingcrankey:


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Anonymous #3

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7434874 - 09/20/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you should have tested the ld50 on yourself, fag


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Anonymous #4

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7435361 - 09/21/07 04:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

A) why the fuck are you wasting cid on fucken mice

and more importantly...

B) why the hell would you go out of yer way to do this anyways?





cause it's not like you just thought it would be funny to make yer pet mouse trip out, or someting...you actually went to the store and bought up a whole bunch of mice for exactly this purpose

that's just plain wrong on so many levels  :nonono:


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Anonymous #5

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7435556 - 09/21/07 07:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
A) why the fuck are you wasting cid on fucken mice





cid = 2C-E? New to me...


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Anonymous #6

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7435810 - 09/21/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

and forgot to weigh them.





CUNT

There would've actually been some use to your experiment if you weighed the mice beforehand and gave them an exact dosage corresponding to their bodyweight so that you would have tested a single mg/kg dose. Now they all have had different doses and we don't know dick.

You should go for a dumpster dive, retrieve as many dead mice and weigh them postmortem to get at least some idea of what you did.

CUNT

It isn't animal testing when you ignore scientific procedure. It's animal cruelty.

If you are going to do this again (and I wish you wouldn't but I can't stop you you sadistic fuck) then at least use the following procedure:

1..acquire lab mice. You can, people buy them all the time as pets or to feed to their reptiles.

2..house them seperately in cages that meet at least minimal standards for a week or so.

3..weigh them and administer the precise amount of substance to be investigated.

4..observe their behavioral changes, record whether there are cramps, convulsions and the like (sick fuck) and when they die for the next two days or more. (bastard)

5..euthanize the survivors (for instance in an airtight tank with a big wad soaked in trichloroethylene suspended out of their reach)

CUNT

You really shouldn't do these kinds of things, and especially not without under the guise of science but without retrieving any useful data.

To make some sense of your atrocity: The average fancy mouse weighs about 25 grams so the LD50 of 2CE in mice is probably lower than 200mg/kg. As there well might be delayed lethal effects your administered dose might have in fact been an LD100. We'll never know, the only good that has come out of this is that we now know is that more than half of a population of 20 mice died within 24 hours after administration of 5mg orally to each of them.

CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT.

If you're a sociopath and wondering what's up with my attitude: you have tortured 20 animals to death under the guise of science, but there was virtually no scientific merit to it whatsoever. If you had done a proper LD50 test and made the results known to the scientific community (Pubmed, MAPS etc) I would've said "thank you for your contribution to science to deliver this highly significant data". But to put those poor mice through all that agony without even the most basic data gathering doesn't make you a scientist but more like the camp doctor of your private little mousewitz.

Mice are vermin but dammit, so are you. If you are going to do this again, then do it scientifically and let your results be known to science.

Personally I'm very interested in oral mouse LD50 of 2CE but it just isn't science if the data is gathered haphazardly and through needless suffering of poor innocent little rodents.

For science, I can see the need for running through a population of a thousand or so. For your sadistic amusement - leave those critters alone!


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Anonymous #7

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7435921 - 09/21/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This thread is spice and the story never happened.


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Anonymous #8

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #7436054 - 09/21/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

OTD anonymous


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Anonymous #4

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7436322 - 09/21/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
A) why the fuck are you wasting cid on fucken mice





cid = 2C-E?  New to me...



eh...toe-may-toe / toe-mah-toe  :rolleyes:



it doesn't change the fact yer wasting good droogz  :shake:


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Anonymous #9

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7436567 - 09/21/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

more like apples and oranges


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Anonymous #4

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #7436696 - 09/21/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

pah-lease...more like grapefruit an oranges  :rolleyes:


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Anonymous #4

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7436703 - 09/21/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

and that STILL doesn't change the fact that he's wasting good drugs  :razz:


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Anonymous #10

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7437800 - 09/21/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hey so i have some candy in my pocket if you want some

just reach on in... :-)


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Anonymous #9

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #7437817 - 09/21/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER


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Anonymous #5

Re: I just calculated 2C-E LD50 in mice (kind of). [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #7443933 - 09/23/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER




LMFAO.


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