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 tehtomi
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 are these dry equatorians edible? 
#7164930 - 07/12/07 06:09 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi,
my first post on shroomery, i hope its in the correct subforum.
could some experienced mycologists take a look at these dry mushrooms:
this was our first grow (16 grams dry) of equatorians. we left them a little bit too long in the "aquarium" so they became a bit darker (almost black at some points). we also noticed some green (definitly green, not blue, but there are blue bruises too) stripes on the sides of the stems..
i read if (by any chance) these are from green mold, the shrooms still are edible? so.. we went on and dried them for like 2 days until they became absolutely dry like crackers.
now as i look at them they have pretty sick colors.. but it doesnt look like its mold.. im not sure if we can eat them.
any advices on what to look out for?
Edited by tehtomi (07/12/07 06:11 AM)
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7164966 - 07/12/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello welcome to the shroomery
Those Ecuadorian shrooms look OK to me.
That pic could be better I'm guessing a phone camera. A little hard to tell.
You get all kinds of colors on dry shrooms,Black and blue bruising brown to red caps and purple spores everywhere.
Here is a wet dry comparison for you to look at.
Open them both and flick back and forth, It looks cool
The pics are high quality so you can zoom in on them.
 -wet----dry-
And here are some more perfectly good dry cubensis.
If they look the same as yours your good to go.
Did you have any contamination when you were growing them???
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: UnderNose]
#7165010 - 07/12/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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hi,
thank you very much for your answer 
excuse the quality it was a webcam and also excuse my foot in that picture lol 
well, our shroomies look exactly like your reference pictures!
this makes me soo happy
ad. contamination: hmm i guess we had a bit of green mold in there, but it was really minimal and only on the stems, so i dont know..
i do have pics of the grow itself but only on my phone...and i couldnt work out that bitchy bluetooth connection by the time writing this. i will post them when i figured it out how.
btw. as we let them grow a bit too long, the spores dropped out (i guess) and parts of the box went purple. i guess thats normal, the question is, can i grow a new flush out of that box?
thank you again,
shroomery rocks
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7165028 - 07/12/07 07:46 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well enjoy your shrooms
Were you growing PF cakes in an aquarium with perlite or something in the bottom?
Was that 16 grams from 1 flush?
If so you should be able to get 2-3 more flushes from them, do a dunk & roll.
Some spores around the fruiting chamber won't really matter.
If that is the end of that grow I would clean out the fruiting chamber with detergent for the next grow.
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Edited by UnderNose (07/12/07 07:53 AM)
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: UnderNose]
#7170106 - 07/13/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey,
i tried them yesterday, and what a ride it was!
yes, 16 grams from one flush dry, but it was a box, so i guess i cant do a dunk & roll o_O or can i?
the box looks like this, my english isnt good enough to understand what perlite/vermiculite etc. is.
but i took the box out put it in a small aquarium with water underneath them containing the heating rod..
dunno what "tek" this is..
i think ill order some spore syringes for the next grow and will try to grow from cakes, as the box isnt producing anything right now.
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7171013 - 07/13/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok, these are the pics of the day we harvested them.
Edited by tehtomi (07/13/07 12:37 PM)
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7171113 - 07/13/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those are some big shrooms.
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: banana hammock]
#7171231 - 07/13/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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hm ~120grams fresh, but i could never chew them fresh 
haha
still... i cant figure out how to re-activate the box. im pretty sure there is a way.
i read about pouring 200ml water in the middle and putting the box back in the chamber, but im not sure about that.
also.. there are some purple aborts still in the box because i didnt wanna eat them and was hoping that they'll grow bigger,
what should i doo
would love to hear how you are doing the reactivation, although this would belong somewhere else in an other subforum...
best regards
tomi
Edited by tehtomi (07/13/07 01:38 PM)
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7171764 - 07/13/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pick the aborts, otherwise they will rot.
There is no "reactivation" required. No remaining growing/maturing mushrooms, with light, tells the substrate to produce more pins, and send those already developed and healthy on the way to maturity.
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7172846 - 07/13/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice damn photography! those stems look as big as your legs bro...No offense or anything, but the aspect ratio is interesting. They look more than edible...lol
Psiloglow---
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: psiloglow]
#7173801 - 07/14/07 04:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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the biggest one was 17g fresh afair
they look bigger on the pics than they really were
the aborts are going to be picked right now!
Edited by tehtomi (07/14/07 04:50 AM)
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7174445 - 07/14/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK your doing casings.cool
Some good fruits in that first flush..
Just pick the aborts, patch the casing with pasteurized or sterilized casing material of your choice (I use 60/40 . verm / coir. but if you don't have any don't worry. it just makes for a better flush. )
Then give it a good mist a few times a day, you want some moisture in there for more shrooms, but don't oversaturate it.
You should be able to get 3 or more flushes from one cake or casing.
Also you should do something to block the light from getting at the sides of the substrate, or you'll get pins on the sides going all over the place.
A bit of foil should do for now.
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Edited by UnderNose (07/14/07 10:52 AM)
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: UnderNose]
#7174483 - 07/14/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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should i put them back in their chamber at 24°C or just leave them outside until they start to pin (with the sides blocked from light)?
damn im such a newbie ^_^
i'd gladly "patch the casing" but i have absolutely no clue what verm/coir means.. if i translate that (to german) it still says vermiculit lol.. do you have a picture of what you mean? we sure have that stuff somewhere...
thanks for your efforts
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7174611 - 07/14/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats OK you bought a kit and don't know much about growing so I'll help you as much as I can.
Yes put the casing back in your fruiting chamber, don't leave it sitting around
between 20*C - 25*C is OK.
Here are some links about casing your substrate.
Why case? Why not?
There are a few casing ingredients to choose from. some more effective than others.
Casing Procedures
But I like the 60/40 verm/coir.
What I meant was 60% vermiculite and 40% coco coir. with a little calcium carbonate to raise the PH. (green mold loves low PH acidic environments.)
It's a quick easy casing material, heres a easy tek.
60/40 Vermiculite and Coco Coir Casing Tek
All you need is.
bowl with lid
microwave
vermiculite
coco coir
Calcium carbonate or lime ( not essential but helps fight green)
You don't have to be totally accurate with the volumes, I just eyeball everything now.
Put boiling water on a little chunk of coir, till it looks like a coir soup.
Then put a whole bunch of verm on top of that. give a good mix
Then sprinkle some calcium or lime over the top and mix.
Now microwave for 5 min & mix until the water in the mixture has reduced ( usually 5 X 5min for a medium size batch)
Then clip the lid down firm, or cover with foil and let cool down for a while.
You now have pasteurized casing material
Did you understand all that, any questions?
Have you taken spore prints?
Edited by UnderNose (07/14/07 12:07 PM)
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: UnderNose]
#7174849 - 07/14/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok thanks, i do understand that verm/coir thing now, i just dont know where to get that stuff, i'll have a look on monday  some supply(?) stores gotta have it.
ad. spore prints:
well, i had a look into spore prints a few days ago and thought of trying to make some, but in the end i couldnt figure out how to use them later ... so i didnt make spore prints because i can get spore syringes cheaper and easier oO
what are the pros of prints?
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7179977 - 07/15/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love your little fruiting chamber!
I'm actually considering making one. Do you have to mist or does the little heater on the bottom take care of that?
For FAE do you just lift the top?
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7187131 - 07/17/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
what are the pros of prints?
Well you become self sufficient in your growing, never having to buy spores again, I have only ever bought spores one time.
One print could make a shit load of 10ml spore syringes, ten or more liquid cultures.
Also people on here often trade spore prints and other items,
(see the little blue and green mushrooms below my name, click on them. the blue are general ratings, the green trade ratings. I gave you a 5 shroom general rating, check it out)
Buying one strain, growing it, then printing and trading it for another strain, this is how I have managed build up a fair collection of strains.
But without the basic means to keep sterile while making them, and the few supplies required, you might as well buy syringes if you can get them quickly and cheaply.
So any luck with casing or a second flush???
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: UnderNose]
#7187834 - 07/17/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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gday,
thanks i will answer after my trip lol
damn notebook ... is moving.. uhm
I HAS STIK TOOOO
gah
edit: i must have 50 points before i can rate as it seems
Edited by tehtomi (07/17/07 02:18 PM)
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tehtomi
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7313198 - 08/20/07 05:45 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey,
sorry for not giving an update/answering the question above:
@Yenny: i don't have to mist, the little heater is great for providing enough humidity as it seems. you can buy one everywhere where aquarium stuff is being sold.
building one is easy, but buying one (actually 2) is cheap too and you get see-through action . i'd give you the advice to buy a bigger one where at least 2 casings fit in, so you are able to harvest enough for the next 11-15 days and don't run out of supply, but thats just my consideration. also this thing has air exhausts on the side (on the blue panel) but i had to cover them with a big sponge, because some damn flies where getting inside of it. the sponge lets air and humidity through, but no dust or flies, its perfect.
still, sometimes i lift the upper part for a few mins for air exchange, just for the sake of it. this also gives the water on the glass a chance to run down on one side and not drop into the casing.
@all:
i started a new grow after i dumped my EQs because of some contamination which i didnt take care of for days unfortunately..
yesterday i harvested 50-60grams (fresh) of hawaiians (pictures will follow as soon as i get home) but the shrooms had NO EFFECT other than stomach ache and a dizzy feeling in my brain.. also the box grew only 5 really big shrooms and dozens of aborts.
i'm considering to grow another flush of that casing, but am not sure if it will than produce cubies with "more power". hawaiians should be quite strong afaik..
any ideas what i should do? i have another "unborn" casing of hawaiians in the fridge.
[pictures of the grow will follow]
best regards,
tomi
Edited by tehtomi (08/20/07 05:54 AM)
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Re: are these dry Ecuadorians edible? [Re: tehtomi]
#7313785 - 08/20/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hay tehtomi, I have grown some cubes before that were similar to that, Just stomach discomfort, tired and little tingle like something is going to happen but then nothing.
Your problem could have been the strain, poor growing techniques or conditions, or even if you have been tripping a lot lately, tolerance to the mushrooms.
You should start a fresh post about the Hawaiians. This is the contamination forum. Use the Mushroom Cultivation forum or the Grow Logs and Pictures forum, you would get better answers that way.
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