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I started great but are my conditions wrong?
    #719522 - 07/03/02 06:38 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Hey, I'm a newbie shroomer here and have a few questions.
I am growing an EQ strain I got from sporeworks.com. They seem to be doing great so far, full colonization occured in 78 Hours and pinning occured in only 2 days after being put in the fruiting chamber, it's now 2 days later and the cakes are full of lill fellas. Firstly is it abnormal for a newbie to get fruiting after just 8 days from innoculation?! Also does temperature and humidity drastically affect the size of mushrooms? Right now I'm using a modified fruiting chamber I came up with. Pictures will come soon!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #719538 - 07/03/02 07:00 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

You had full colonization of your jars 78 hours? Were you using a thimble instead of a jar? Sounds almost impossible to me... What size jars are you using? What did you use for a substrate?
Provide some more information, if you wouldn't mind.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Mycelium]
    #719574 - 07/03/02 07:23 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Substrate was BRF, very fine ground BRF and vermiculite, jars half pint. As soon as I Inoculated I placed them in a dark closet, next day I checked, I could see the myc in small sections all over the jar, day after I checked and it had grown very dense, next day The whole jar was thick white and I could see an oily liquid all over the jars. The cakes were then birthed the next day on perlite with a modified fish tank pump setup taking fresh air into the container 24/7 with cold air being flushed into the terrium 3 times a day so that temps would stay ideal and moisture would be balanced 3 days later and I now have many little guys about 1-2 inches tall growing, I am worried about the humidity because some of them have myc growing on the caps! Should I maybe run the air pump less, or stop the cold air flushing?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #719601 - 07/03/02 07:55 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Let me see if I understand correctly:

Innoc to 100% colonization = 3 days
birthed and starting to pin = 3 days

I would say you are the master of your mushrooms! Thats the funniest thing I have read in awhile. Thank you!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Frog31337]
    #719610 - 07/03/02 08:04 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

I believe you want a lower humudity when fruiting(some) strains of mushrooms. I'm fairly new, so don't take my word on that. But, yeah, that is very amazing how fast the mycelium grew. I hope mine grows even 1/3 of that fast.

Good luck!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Frog31337]
    #719639 - 07/03/02 08:24 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Frog, I'm not sure how I did it, but I am no where near a master, I know shit about mushrooms, I'm a newbie, maybe beginners luck? Maybe it's where I live? I live in the caribbean so nights are cold and days are humid, temps usually hover around the ideal shrom temps. Lets, not 6 days, lets say 4 days innoculation and 4 days birthed and pinned. I have read that when myc grows on the caps when humidity is too low, maybe i'll run the air pump less?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #719887 - 07/03/02 10:56 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

no if anything you need more air exchange to get the humidity down. you are useing perilite for humidity correct? not the air pump? you may even want to try fanning it once a day to remove the humidity. Or you could remove some of that perilite.

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: L3D]
    #720268 - 07/03/02 01:36 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Using perlite as the casing layer, and also have a dual air pump going into the terrium for filtered air. The thing is I see minimal condensation on the terrium walls, totally opposite to all the other terrium pictures I see here, where condensation is practically running down the sides of the terrium. What do i do to correct this?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #720284 - 07/03/02 01:42 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Condensation will usually form on the walls if the outside temperature is lower than that inside the terranium. If it is the same, none will form.Lack of condensation does not mean your humidity is too low.

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #720375 - 07/03/02 02:22 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

PIss as a substitute...hmm that might be a good idea, I'm not sure if I did anything differently, I followed the BRF formula and added BS 'not bull shit' brown sugar to the water formula. Could it be that my enviroment conditions are simply perfect? The only thing I did differently is that I used a full spore print for just two cakes. Thats all...I'm a totall newbie, i'm really shocked that I got the suckers to even grow this well, I have about 50 young mushrooms 1st flush on each cake about 2 inches in size, extreme beginners luck


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #720415 - 07/03/02 02:34 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

You added brown sugar?! I've never heard of doing that! Where did you come up with that idea? I wonder if that's the magic ingredient to your fast growth?!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #720594 - 07/03/02 04:21 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

The only thing I did differently is that I used a full spore print for just two cakes.

Now I'm far from being an expert on growing(growing for first time myself) but wouldnt that calculate to like 5cc's of spores per cake, which seems like an awful lot. Perhaps there was so many spores the cake just went absolutely apeshit, however 4 days still does sound incredibly fast. Just giving my two cents.

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Danimal]
    #720722 - 07/03/02 05:49 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

^^^

I noticed that too... I'd imagine that he used a lot of spores on just those 2 cakes.
but he also mentioned brown sugar, ive never heard of that b4. maybe that has something to do wiht it still?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: GWAR]
    #720790 - 07/03/02 06:29 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

You're all right, I did use allot of spores, but i suppose the more spores the faster the network builds up, whatever, i'll just make another print. To clear it up, I used the BRF tek, followed all instructions and measurements, I simply dissolved brown sugar into the water before mixing it all up. I am almost ready to innoculate about 12 more jars, i'll document it better, 6 with sugar, 6 without, well see if it was just a fluke.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #720796 - 07/03/02 06:31 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

Everything has been great so far, cakes are full of shrooms, growing at an unbelievable rate, everytime I look at them they seem to be bigger hehe. One cake has about 50 shrooms on it, all at least 2-3inches tall, not a single abort! Damn these EQ's kick ass!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Component]
    #721338 - 07/03/02 10:19 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

i've herd of using honey but i wounder how honey and brown surgar would do??????/


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
    #721909 - 07/04/02 07:06 AM (15 years, 25 days ago)

i am using 1 full tsp per 1/2 pint cake


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Component]
    #722079 - 07/04/02 09:09 AM (15 years, 25 days ago)

I'm putting brown sugar in my next batch forsure....this is sooo exciting!
If it works it could change ALOT....
where did you get this idea...?


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