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Offlinemushroomaniac
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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: badjessejames]
    #722091 - 07/04/02 07:15 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

High school fungus eperiment hehe


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #722226 - 07/04/02 08:48 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

u said you were gonan do 6 with sugar, and 6 without.. was there any difference?? or are all your jars growing like crazy now.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: GWAR]
    #722237 - 07/04/02 08:57 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I will do 12 jars, 6 with six without and I'll post the results, I would liek to get some other stuff corrected first that may flaw the experiment, such as terrium conditions, humidity, temp and c02 levels, I'm new to this but i'll notify everyone with results. Too answer you question, my two cakes are growing like crazy, however I think C02 levels too high, they dont seem to be bulking up.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #724346 - 07/05/02 08:22 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

OH! Half a print per 1/2 pint jar would really speed things along! The sugar idea is cool. Any ideas on how natural honey vs processed sugar vs pure cane sugar might turn out? etc I look forward to seeing your results. Good luck!

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Frog31337]
    #724355 - 07/05/02 08:33 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

You said you used Perlite as a casing layer??? If you're using cakes do you mean you have perlite at the base of your terrarium? If you double-ended with perlite that would burn through your mycellium....hopefully that was just a typo.

Congrats on your apparent speedy developments. I'm surprised nobody asked you more about the "oil substance"...condensation in my jars was simply water...nothing oily.

It's cool that you're in trinidad...I'd like to visit there some day and visit some Shango temples. I'm Lukumi which is the Yoruba religion as it came to Cuba. Olorun agbe O.

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #725123 - 07/05/02 03:48 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Wow full colonization in 3 days, thats really something.
How are your expermients coming along now? Have anyone else tried out this formula?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #764857 - 07/21/02 02:40 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Something is very wrong here. Full colonization of a 1/2 pint in 3 days!?! That is IMPOSSIBLE! I wont believe it.

Also 1 print for 2 cakes!?! That is rediculous. You could have made over 10 syringes with one print, and inoculated over 100 jars!!! Did you use a syringe? Maybe you mentioned so, I didnt catch it. If you did, this means you used 5cc of spore water per jar.....that would tweak the formula. Moisture content way too high.

Now, how are these doing now? You started a new thread today, and it seems you are starting over. So this didnt go well, correct?


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: pleezr]
    #764940 - 07/21/02 03:06 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

"The ORIGINAL PF tek calls for 66 cc's of water( http://www.shroomery.org/findorgrowthem.php?View=docs&doc=15 ). According to your thread you used 1 whole print in 1 syringe and that syringe was used for 2 cakes. That is 5 cc's per cake, thats 1/2 a print for 1 cake. 5 ccs of spore water, 60 cc's of substrate water. That mean 1/12 the amount of water was FULL with spores. Now if you innoculated like everyone else then the spore water was injected high in the cake and trickled down throughout the cake. That would soak the whole cake in spores. They would all germinate at roughly the same time and that would make thousands of innoculation points. That would make the whole cake colonize in 1-3 days."

"Also the brown sugar, my friend tried that with 10 cakes, no luck at all. They all colonized in 16 days and fruited normally"

Thats a post from me from his other thread, it kinda makes sence to this colonization time....
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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #765117 - 07/21/02 04:00 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

My fastest is 9 days w/PES Hawaiian, next 10 days w/PR. Come on.....3 days!?! Then pins 3 days later? If this were so, why do you question wheather you can harvest 50g in 3-4 weeks? At this rate you could do it in just over a week!


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: pleezr]
    #765133 - 07/21/02 04:05 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

It is 101% the fault of the insane amount of spores he put in there. But the pinning in 3 days is harder to belive....
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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: Fd3000]
    #765626 - 07/21/02 06:22 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, okay. That's amazing. 3 days to colonize and 3 to pin? Damn. There goes that 3-4 weeks idea.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: bluefoot]
    #765670 - 07/21/02 06:32 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I question the ability to do this because...
1. I do not have enough spores right now to inncoculate 24 1/2 pint jars with half a print each!
2. Although colonization was fast and pinning was fast, the cakes produced very little in terms of dry weight and contaminants screwed me in the middle of the second flush. As I said, I was hoping for a method with a greater degree of safety.


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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #765738 - 07/21/02 06:57 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Impossible.
Even when I used a master honey culture the fastest I had was 9-10 days.
And that was a pint jar.
So half that and you`re looking at atleast 5 days.
And then fruiting , you need atleast a day for the mycelium to recover after the cake has been broken up and then time for the casing to start fruiting.
All in all I can`t see 8 days total time.
Anyway.

I guess we'll never know.

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #765775 - 07/21/02 07:05 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

any pics or anything yet? and did you try any of the experiments with the sugar?

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Re: I started great but are my conditions wrong? [Re: mushroomaniac]
    #765815 - 07/21/02 07:15 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

1. I do not have enough spores right now to inncoculate 24 1/2 pint jars with half a print each!



This is a waste
In reply to:

2. Although colonization was fast and pinning was fast, the cakes produced very little in terms of dry weight and contaminants screwed me in the middle of the second flush.


Is it possible that it was a contam that dominated your cakes in the first place? A contam can easily explode in a few days. Maybe that is why you didnt get much fruit.

These are only possibilities. I am trying to get a feel for your logic.


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