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why small flushes?
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hello;
i'm trying to figure out why these cakes only flush in some areas, and not all around the cake




after 4 caps and stems were removed for prints.

the fruiting chamber is kept between 85-91 percent humidity (doesn't seem to brake 91 percent with a hand-mister), and between 75-79 degrees, fanned 4-5 times per day.
also, this mushroom pinned while in the colonization jar, and grew much larger than the others. it was lying on the perlite and the inside was soaking wet when harvested, and was very blue. the same blue colour seemed evident at the edges of the cap, also. does that sound like contamination, or does the "blue bruising" apply here?:

thanks!


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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They look like decent flushes to me for PF. Remember their is only so much "food" in a cake, if you had an even pinset on the whole cake the mushies would be smaller. I am new to this but I think my logic and minimal experience is correct, maybe not.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: newbmush]
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That blue is definitely bruising. Fruits grow where conditions are ample, in your case being closest to the perlite b/c that is where the humidity is highest. Looks like an average size flush for a PF cake to me.

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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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okay dude you're thinking too much, be glad that your cake even flushed at all! and if you are that worried, try the dunk and roll tech.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: Mankey]
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yea looks like a really good flush off of a pf cake.what strain?


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: Mankey]
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thanks!
has anyone ever tried making a casing with a cake, after the first flush?
another question - if the fruiting chamber (aka plastic container) is blue instead of clear, would that in theory effect pinning? i mean would blueish light be any different than "regular" light, as far as the pins are concerned?
thanks everyone who has answered my amateur questions.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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oh yeah, they were dunked and rolled. forgot to mention that.
the strain is B+.
sorry for the double-post!


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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I wouldnt try using the cake after a flush to spawn to anything or case it since it just used up 70% (estimated figure)of it's life just getting that 1st flush out.blue shouldnt matter the only thing i can see is that clear would be better since light can penetrate it easier but shouldnt be a problem.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: xaxphaanes]
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can u break the cake up and redo the casing or would the myc not grow anymore? just seeing if there is a way to make a cake go further.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: w. murderface]
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You could break it up and use it to spawn to a bulk substrate, probably. But that's a good way to get contams. Best to 'use as directed', and use sterile grain culture for bulk spawning. Cakes are a starter tek. Works ok, but there's lots more to learn and do.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: Dr_T]
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...and you complain about that? Thats damn nice for a first try.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: shagg]
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seriously man, stop tripping about nothing
do you got any extra spore prints up for grabs?


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: shagg]
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You cannot grow a cake more after the first flush, or its not worth your time anyway. Cakes are very resistant to contaminations after full colonization.


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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midgard said:
has anyone ever tried making a casing with a cake, after the first flush? 


Yes, I have had success doing this, but I don't know if the casings do better than the cakes would have. I wouldn't recommend it, but you can...  :cool:


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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midgard said:
hello;
i'm trying to figure out why these cakes only flush in some areas, and not all around the cake




after 4 caps and stems were removed for prints.

the fruiting chamber is kept between 85-91 percent humidity (doesn't seem to brake 91 percent with a hand-mister), and between 75-79 degrees, fanned 4-5 times per day.
also, this mushroom pinned while in the colonization jar, and grew much larger than the others. it was lying on the perlite and the inside was soaking wet when harvested, and was very blue. the same blue colour seemed evident at the edges of the cap, also. does that sound like contamination, or does the "blue bruising" apply here?:

thanks!


Looks fine, esp. if it's from a multispore inoculation which I'm assuming it is since it's a cake and you're somewhat of a newbie (no offense) An isolate or cloned culture would give you a better pinset.. But, like I said, "Looks fine"


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: Nimbot]
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what about you sun potatoe, got extra prints?
i know people have them, but they arent too generous :frown:


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: wutang]
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I've used a spent cake for spawn several times with great success. When I actually used to use cakes, I'd use a cake to spawn the next dozen. I'd say try it.

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Re: why small flushes? [Re: wutang]
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I also went the easy way with the cakes using B+ strain. Each one fruited differently. 99% of the fruits were small with a couple bigger ones. My first cake (I gave birth early to one) is now pinning for its second flush. I'm waiting for all the fruits to dry before I get the final weight of the first flush. I wasn't trying to grow anymore than enough for personal use but after trying some I realize I may soon be trying a more substantial method because I LOVE EM!!! and my personal use just increased. :crazy2:


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: wutang]
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damnit greedy peeps!


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Re: why small flushes? [Re: midgard]
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damnit greedy peeps!



You live in California. It is illegal. Don't call us "greedy" because we're not willing to commit a crime without compensation, on your behalf.

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