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OfflineWronguy
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Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. (Update! Trip Report)
    #4240762 - 05/31/05 04:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I used the Single Tub tek for this grow of PR. This was PR colonized WBS spawned to horse manure in a single large container. The substrate depth was 3 inches, cased with 50/50+. My average fruit is 12 inches long with caps ranging from 3-4 inches in diameter.

I began harvesting these and had to put them into a 19 qt. container just to hold them all. I zeroed the scale with an identical empty container and weighed them. These bad boys came in at 6 lbs or 96 ounces. I have dried some previous stems of these while I was printing some good ones and the stem has lost only 85% of it's weight.

This means that I should yield between 12-14 ounces dry when it's all said and done, maybe more.

Edit:
Okay, so I'm dreaming on the dry yield. 9-10 ounces is more likely.


I really wanted to show everyone that the single tub works and the monster yields it can produce. This is only the first flush, so there are more to come. Here are some pics:









Thanks for all the help fellows. I hope I can give back to the community as well.

Update 6/2/2005

I just weighed the first half of my shrooms. They've been going for over 24 hours now (started them at 9:30 AM yesterday) and I just pulled them out. The stems and caps are so dry that when I bend them, they disintegrate.

Here's what's left over to dry:



Here is the scale with a gallon Zip lock bag on to show the weight of the bag:


Here are the dried shrooms on the scale:


Here is the weight of the dried shrooms including the 1/8 ounce gallon Zip lock bag:


Final comparison of the bag size for you skeptics out there:


So the total weight of the first half of these shrooms is 5 1/8 ounce dry. That's after I deduct for the bag weight of 1/8 ounce.

What do you guys think so far? Thanks fellows.

Update 6/5/2005

The final weight came in at 9 ounces even. I zeroed the scale with 2 gallon size Zip lock bags and weighed. The scale reads in increments of 1/8 ounce and was fluctuating between 9-9 1/8. The photo I took happened to be at the 9 ounce mark.

Here you go:



All in all, I'm pretty with my first flush. The second flush is due to pin any day now, so we'll see what happens. I will be happy to pull a pound of out these when it's all said and done.

Update. Trip Report 06/10/2005

Okay I had a chance to try out my second bulk grow on this new strain of Puerto Ricans. Let me first qualify what I'm about to say by saying that I love the heavy trip. I enjoy visuals and mostly the way my body feels.

On to the trip report. I started last night by separating 5 grams. I ground up 3 grams for the first dose and 2 grams for the subsequent dose to follow 1-1 1/2 hours later. I heated up some 6 oz of water in the microwave, poured the ground up mushrooms in the water, stirred, and then placed into a tea cup with some Good Earth spice tea.

I started to feel the effects within 15-20 minutes. Within 30-45 minutes I was in full swing with some very nice visuals and a really awesome body high. What I particularly liked about this strain was the ease and subtleties of the trip. If I wanted to get up and walk around or go outside and smoke, I could maneuver fairly easily. Even with children around I could talk to them with ease.

Once you sit back down and relax after doing some form of activity the trip kicks back in and your back in wonderland. Basically the mushrooms allow you to feel semi-normal while having a discussion or doing some light activities, but come right back into play when you relax again. That is on the first dose.

Second dose was taken about 9 PM using the aforementioned method of ingestion. Within about 30 minutes, the second dose of 2 grams, began kicking in nicely. I sat down and started to watch Return of the King and was blown away by the heightened senses. The visuals in this movie seemed to come alive as I watched in awe.

Trails were in full swing and seemed to be present even moving at the slowest speeds. A nice wave of the hand from left to right seemed to last some 5 seconds before I lost sight. I especially enjoyed the head-rush I would get when picking up an object that appeared to move, such as a designer hand towel. My eyes could not focus on the object at fairly close distances so I would get a head-rush every time I touched the thing.

Overall I would have to grade the Puerto Rican strain as follows:

Mycelium growth in WBS 10 days= B
Spawn run 4 days= A+
Pinning 7 days= A
Fruit size= A++
Final dry weight 9 oz= A+
Drying time 36 hours= B
Ease of ingestion= A
Visuals= A+
Body high= A
Control= A
Peak= A++++
After effects= A (no headache or other fatigue)

Well you heard it here folks. Would you guys like to see a writeup on future strains? Any other items you would like me to grade?

Edited by augustin7 (06/11/05 05:53 PM)

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4240787 - 05/31/05 04:09 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

whoa


those are huge

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4240788 - 05/31/05 04:09 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

those are super monster shrooms man! congrats. show us more!

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4240810 - 05/31/05 04:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks fellows. My dehydrator can only hold about a quarter of these, so I'll take some more photos when I begin the drying. I've got some monsters in there, that's for sure. I think I may have one that's over 18 inches. I'll measure my biggest one and take a photo later tonight or tomorrow.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4240911 - 05/31/05 04:36 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Dang lol. Do you get yields like that with other strains using that method? Or are PRs just a larger than usual strain? I have seen differences between strains that I have on an identical size container. Due to those differences, I am growing Orissa mostly now, but am always up for a prolific strain.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4240925 - 05/31/05 04:40 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

but am always up for a prolific strain.




The differences between each strain in the same genus is very sligh..

PE is rather non-hallow, i think that's awesome :thumbup:

Nice fruits man, weigh em out

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4240960 - 05/31/05 04:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, nice grow indeed!  :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4240974 - 05/31/05 04:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I think the size of the container tremendously contributed to the size. I have some EQ going in another smaller double tub and I'm only getting 3+ ounces per flush after drying. The fruits are smaller.

The stems are definitely not hollow, so that's contributing to the weight as well. I'll post the dry weight when they're all done so you guys can see.

That is my first grow using the Single Tub tek, so I can't comment on other strains. I'll be knocking up some South Americans soon and using the same exact tub. I'll post those results in a few weeks hopefully.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Holydiver]
    #4240982 - 05/31/05 04:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Diver. I was really surprised when I weighed these bad boys. I think I'm really getting a knack for cultivating. :cool:

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4241258 - 05/31/05 06:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

FarOut  :thumbup:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4241288 - 05/31/05 06:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Very nice indeed. Gotta love the poo.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4241296 - 05/31/05 06:13 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

very impressive


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4241356 - 05/31/05 06:28 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Very nice bro!~

:thumbup:  :thumbup:

nice looking fruits!~

you really are doing well.

:smile:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Roadkill]
    #4241406 - 05/31/05 06:40 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Damn 12-14oz dry!!! That's what I'm talking about. Exactly how big was your fruiting chamber??


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: unknown28]
    #4241486 - 05/31/05 07:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Rarely am I speechless. OMFG


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: oysterguy63]
    #4241557 - 05/31/05 07:30 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

all i can say is..... JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST MAN! I so wish i was you right now. what do you do with all those and how often do you trip, if i had that much i don't know if i could control my self and only trip once a month!


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #4242707 - 06/01/05 12:25 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all the comments people. I really do appreciate the feedback.

My fruiting chamber is 30" L X 19.5" W X 15.5" D. The total substrate depth is 3.5". Lately I've been tripping about every weekend, but not much more than that. I haven't tried the Puerto Ricans yet, but my EQ grown on the same horse manure kicked some serious ass.

I was pretty surprised by the weight and even more surprised by the retention of size after I dried a couple of them. Here is a pic of a stem I dried after I printed the cap.



This stem is cracker dry and still not much smaller than the original.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242715 - 06/01/05 12:27 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

So how many quarts of spawn would you say that was? I kinda already PM'ed you about this, but did you follow a specific tek for this single tub or did you just put it together as an idea you had?


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242720 - 06/01/05 12:28 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Congrats.. That is beautiful!


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4242724 - 06/01/05 12:30 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I'm typing up a PM to you now.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242854 - 06/01/05 01:08 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I envy you... I really do...

Did I mention I envied you?


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242864 - 06/01/05 01:14 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

wow GJ...i'm gonna try the poo tek ..someday


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Gatorade]
    #4242908 - 06/01/05 01:38 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Gatorade said:
I envy you... I really do...

Did I mention I envied you?




Hey Gatorade, there's nothing to envy. You can do the same thing if you like. I didn't do anything special, nor am I a cultivating genius. I simply took the time to read up on teks and tried my hand at the Single Tub tek.

Anyone can do it. My advice is to try your hand at this easy, yet effective, Single/Double Tub tek. I think I spent a total of $29.00, including the spores, and look what I got out of it.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242942 - 06/01/05 01:54 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

so you like the MONO-TUB eh ?
glad to hear that :smile:
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: ohmatic]
    #4242951 - 06/01/05 02:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Ohm, I had no idea that you were doing this as well. I actually got the idea from Iamthewalrus on a Double Tub thread. I love this tek man. Mine is slightly modified as you can see, but works just the same.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4242984 - 06/01/05 02:17 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Wronguy said:
Hey Ohm, I had no idea that you were doing this as well. I actually got the idea from Iamthewalrus on a Double Tub thread. I love this tek man. Mine is slightly modified as you can see, but works just the same.






two fools, one idea eh :wink:

here we go with my mama:
->

straight grain =)
peace ohm :mushroom2:

*edit*
click the link in my sig for the whole log.


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Edited by Carlito (09/18/07 04:09 PM)

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: ohmatic]
    #4243464 - 06/01/05 09:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

any chance you could chuck a picture on here of them growing?? VERY IMPRESSED!!!!!!

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Sammy]
    #4243628 - 06/01/05 10:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Good results.Sure I will try when my jars fully colonize.
But I want to ask you about the logic about this tek ?
I read this tek from somewhere says the trick is the ratio of base and hight allow air flow and with the polyfill it filtered...
So with this technique you don't need perlite or geolite and fan.Only Polyfill and a tube.
I think I will experiment with other storage styles that keep the base and height ratio.
Good work by the way.Thanks for posting.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Gatorade]
    #4244336 - 06/01/05 01:43 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Single/Double Tub tek... I know what I have to read now!

Enjoy those shrooms man... but really how can you not? :smile:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Sammy]
    #4244459 - 06/01/05 02:30 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Sam, this is the only picture I have of these growing. I was on vacation for the last week when these guys were pinning.

Here you go:



These photos were taken 3 days before harvest. The mushrooms almost doubled in size over those 3 days.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: barisk]
    #4244490 - 06/01/05 02:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

barisk said:But I want to ask you about the logic about this tek ? I read this tek from somewhere says the trick is the ratio of base and hight allow air flow and with the polyfill it filtered...

So with this technique you don't need perlite or geolite and fan.Only Polyfill and a tube.




The height of the container is important, but only for shallow tubs, not large tubs. The CO2 expulsion occurs at the substrate/casing level, while the air exchange takes place from the top of the container. A well ventilated room will provide more than enough air exchange for the entire process.

Shallow tubs do not provide the head room for mushroom growth and may inhibit the amount of fresh air exchange. If you are using a small container you'll want to incorporate the Double Tub tek. Placing another tub on top of the tub with substrate will give you the needed room for air exchange and mushrooms growth.

Using this tek does not require any form of humidification. Either the substrate or the casing layer provide enough humidity to carry this through the harvest. I personally use a casing layer.

As far as the fanning is concerned, you don't. You could place a small personal fan in the room that the tub is in for better air circulation, but it is not required. If you are using this tub in a closet, a fan would be advisable. You don't want to point the fan directly at the container though. You'll dry out your casing and/or mushrooms.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4245556 - 06/01/05 06:58 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

15 percent dry matter? You sure your scale is accurate?

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: EonTan]
    #4245581 - 06/01/05 07:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Any trip report. Curious how potent were those since they were on poo.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: EonTan]
    #4245678 - 06/01/05 07:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

My scale is accurate. I actually weighed my wet and small amount of already dried mushrooms on a digital scale and a manual scale to make sure I wasn't tripping. The reason for the high retention is the solid stems. My stems are pretty solid. There is a small amount of hollowness, but not much.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: littleharoldeh]
    #4245738 - 06/01/05 07:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't had a chance to sample these yet, but I will on Saturday. I will have a report for you then.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4246016 - 06/01/05 09:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Beatiful grow man. Nice yield and those are some monsters.

Have you compared the results of straw to poo?

How long did the WBS take to colonize the poo?

Are you going to do/did you anything to rehydrate the tub after the first flush?

Got any pics of what they dried up to look like?

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: chronicfatigue]
    #4246036 - 06/01/05 09:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't tried straw yet and I don't think I will.

The WBS took about 4-5 days to completely colonize the horse manure.

I patched the tub after harvesting and gave it a good misting.

I am still drying these bad boys, but I will post a picture of the weight when they are all completed. My dehydrator only holds about half the flush, so it will be a couple of days to complete.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4246197 - 06/01/05 10:20 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I dont believe for a sec that you got the weights(asuming that they were 100% dried) that you claim judging from those pics and the dimensions of your chamber. Please provide some more definitive pics. Then again I dont believe alot of things that turn out to be true.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: azurescens]
    #4246269 - 06/01/05 10:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Are you kidding?? Look at the third pic down on augustin's initial post. That container is full of the biggest shrooms I have ever seen. Remember, i'ts mostly water :smile:


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4247730 - 06/02/05 11:41 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

:confused:

Well you are defying all the textbooks, and my experience with the Strain and substrate. The pictures look familar but the numbers don't.

congrats on the grow. They are some fine looking cubies.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: EonTan]
    #4248361 - 06/02/05 02:10 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I'll post my dry weight with detailed pics of the scales for all you skeptics out there. I was shocked at the wet weight as well. Measured it 3 times to be sure.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4248381 - 06/02/05 02:13 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

You probably made some good Bio-effiency...But I doubt it'd be called "defying"...

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4248564 - 06/02/05 02:48 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I'm too much of a newbie to be defying anything when it comes to mycology. I'm just a rogue cultivator who probably got lucky. We'll see though.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4248582 - 06/02/05 02:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Auctually this yield isn't _that_ impressive. Don't get me wrong bro, you did one hell of a job and I am extremelly impressed  :mushroom2:, but do the math.  This is very plausable.  The thing that made the yield so large was the size of the container you where using.  According to the sterilie website you where using A 39gallon latch tote with a surface area of about 748 square inches.  Eatualive's double tubs and most other cultivators are using 66quart storage bins tops.  Eatualive was using something smaller.  The 66quart has a surface area of 368 square inches.  That is less than half the surface area, and everyone claims to be pulling 6ozs out of theirs.  I believe that by increasing the surface area you increase the hieght of the fruits and that further increases the yield.

Massive containers seem to be the way to go.  :thumbup:

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: chronicfatigue]
    #4248594 - 06/02/05 02:56 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

huge containers are great until you get a contam and then your screwed.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: chronicfatigue]
    #4248738 - 06/02/05 03:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Auctually this yield isn't _that_ impressive. Don't get me wrong bro, you did one hell of a job and I am extremelly impressed  :mushroom2:, but do the math.  This is very plausable.  The thing that made the yield so large was the size of the container you where using.  According to the sterilie website you where using A 39gallon latch tote with a surface area of about 748 square inches.  Eatualive's double tubs and most other cultivators are using 66quart storage bins tops.  Eatualive was using something smaller.  The 66quart has a surface area of 368 square inches.  That is less than half the surface area, and everyone claims to be pulling 6ozs out of theirs.  I believe that by increasing the surface area you increase the hieght of the fruits and that further increases the yield.

Massive containers seem to be the way to go.  :thumbup:




You hit the nail on the head. The container size makes a huge difference on the yields as well as substrate depth. I was totally unaware that I would yield this much and really think I got lucky. We'll see on my future grows though.

By the way, my container is 25 gallons.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4248914 - 06/02/05 03:52 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Ditto on that ^^

How much spawn was used in total.

(didnt see it in other posts)

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4249072 - 06/02/05 04:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I used 5 quarts of WBS to 12-15 lbs of horse manure. The WBS was filled to about 2/3 full in the jars.

It only took a total of 4 days to completely colonize.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249083 - 06/02/05 04:31 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome.

Reason I asked was because I was doing sometime similar and wanted to see how mine would match up.

Good shit bro (lol)

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4249093 - 06/02/05 04:34 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the props man. Good luck on your grow.

Keep us posted.  :cool:

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4249121 - 06/02/05 04:45 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still thinking they werent fully dry...just my thought though, I could be wrong....its just thats DOUBLE dry matter percentage of normal (8 being normal with you at 15). Plust the dry stem looks dry like it will snap like a cracker...but I've seen them look like that before, and if you leave them on they keep losing weight and shriveling more.

As I said could be wrong...just my thoughts on what happened. I also think that the size of the tub is throwing people off..the flush doesnt look that solid, but the tub is just so damn big, and so are the shrooms that there doesnt need to be many of them. Nice load in any case, have fun!


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4249169 - 06/02/05 04:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Scatman, what do you mean fully dry? Are you talking about the couple I dried after printing? The 85% is just a guess based on what the stem looked like after I pulled it out of the dehydrator. The stem pictured here is 100% cracker dry.



The dry weight is what will tell the tale.

What do you mean by not that solid on the flush? Are you talking about the container being packed with shrooms or using "solid" as an inference of a weak flush?

The purpose of my thread was to show people that my first flush came in at 6 lbs. wet weight. I don't definitively know what I will have dry, as I'm still in the process. I'll have to make 2-3 runs with that sucker packed to the gills.

The one thing that is greatly attributing to my weight are the semi-solid stems. I'll snap a photo when I pull the next batch out for drying so you guys can see. The stems are only about 30% hollow, so their quite meaty.

Am I misinterpreting what you are saying Scatman?

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249184 - 06/02/05 05:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

96 ounces will come out to about 9.6 ounces if dried properly. Your grow is great but I dont think you dried all the way. Either way, enjoy your trip.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: azurescens]
    #4249231 - 06/02/05 05:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

>What do you mean by not that solid on the flush? Are you talking about the container being packed with shrooms or using "solid" as an inference of a weak flush?

I mean not solid shrooms across the casing surface...the flush wasnt really weak though, energy was concentrated into the mushrooms well and you ended up with fewer shrooms that were bigger, instead of more smaller shrooms. I have found that more smaller shrooms is better for yeild but I understand here that this post isnt about optimal. I was just stating why everyone is saying they cant see it...the flush isnt SOLID (as in sea of shrom caps across the top) but the shrooms are big and solid, and the container is big. It makes for odd looking pictures.

My comment was if you got 15% dry matter..I'd say the shrooms arent dried thouroughly, someone mentioned that number..thought you had determined that to be your dry weight already, not just estimated. I'd expect 9-9.6 ounces if properly dried. The reason I mention this is I've found on the dehydrator with big shrooms they can feel completly dry to me even, then I put them in the container with desiccant to store them, and they have still lost weight. Or if not in a desiccant chamber, shrooms that previously snapped liked a cracker, now felt softer because moisture from the center of the stem moved out to outer part..


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: azurescens]
    #4249236 - 06/02/05 05:15 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

You don't think I've dried them all the way? I just barely started drying yesterday! I've got at least 2-3 days more of drying.

Listen people, the point of this thread, for those who don't get, is to point out the wet weight. Everything else is a guess on my part. I don't know exactly how much I'll yield after drying them and neither does anyone else.

You can't simply say that I will lose 10% across the board. I may lose more or less. I will be ecstatic with 12 ounces, but still happy with 9.

I'll say this one last time for those people who still don't get it "My wet weight is 96 ounces or 6 lbs." This is not my dry weight.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249259 - 06/02/05 05:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone understands that but when you say:

"This means that I should yield between 12-14 ounces dry when it's all said and done, maybe more."

In your first post...people are saying that just cause one stem dried to 85% doesnt mean the rest of your flush will, and if it does it probably isnt dried properly. You should retian LESS then 10%...maybe a little more but again 8% dry matter is average...if you got 15% that would be double..


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249285 - 06/02/05 05:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I got you now Scatman. Yeah, it's hard to say on the dry weight right now. I'll dry the shit out of them and post the results with photos.

I do have an excellent point to make here though. So what if the shrooms do not meet the drying standards 100%? As long as they grind up in my coffee grinder, I'm happy.

For all you veterans out there, this flush is pretty good for a newbie. When I perfect my casing techniques and growing chambers, my shrooms will be more representative of the hard work you guys put in.

For now, I'm just happy that I pulled in the wet weight that I did. I have only grown 3 times, this being my third, so I still have a ways to go.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249310 - 06/02/05 05:34 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Dont get anyone wrong, no ones knocking the results, they are great...but the problem is the results are just great and the weight is ENORMOUS. Thats all people were questioning...great results either way, newbie or not.

If the shrooms do not meet the drying standards 100%, you will have mushrooms with extra water..it wont be anything that you can feel when you snap them, but it will affect potency slightly. How much would depend on how much extra water of course. This is where alot of rumors about larger mushrooms being less potent came from I think, water held in the center of the stem (not even the center either, the center of the center and the wall of the shroom if that makes any sense). I always leave on large shrooms like 6 hours past cracker dry..

Either way, at this point all this is just guessing and discussion until we get a dry weight in...and you may end up with more then 10%...it is possible...but a warning is also deserved that you may want to keep an eye on that sort of thing...it caused me some minor issues finding out for myself that shrooms can appear carcker dry and not really be.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4249319 - 06/02/05 05:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tip on drying Scatman. I'll definitely keep them in a little longer. Especially the stems, as they are huge.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249337 - 06/02/05 05:45 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Shit....makes me want to buy some horse shit to grow my PR's on. They grow puny as fuck on rice and verm.

You should enjoy them when you test them. Even mine grown on the verm and rice were an amazing trip at just 3 grams, and yours should be more potent.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4249348 - 06/02/05 05:49 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Very nice work! But i'm having my doughts that flush was almost 10 ounces dry. I've had similar flushes out've the same container that weighed half that much. But still nice work! Don't let me piss in your Cheerios.

Edited by hotnutz (06/02/05 05:50 PM)

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Deadmaker]
    #4249352 - 06/02/05 05:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I sure hope so. I've heard good things about this strain. I tried some B+ on straight casings and they sucked ass. I even took a dose of 7 grams to try and increase the trip.

I've already tried some EQ on the same horse manure I used for the PR and they were awesome. I'll post a potency report after this weekend.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4249358 - 06/02/05 05:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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hotnutz said:
Very nice work! But i'm having my doughts that flush was almost 10 ounces dry. I've had similar flushes out've the same container that weighed half that much. But still nice work! Don't let me piss in your Cheerios.




Thanks for the kudos. You need to read some more of this thread though. I haven't even completed the drying yet. The dry weight has not come in yet.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4261337 - 06/05/05 08:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Here is an update for you on the first page.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4261374 - 06/05/05 08:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

ANy trip report yet. I know you were saying Sat you were gonna try

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: littleharoldeh]
    #4261435 - 06/05/05 08:35 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't trip this weekend for fear of a tolerance buildup. I was tripping on Monday night and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to get the full effects by tripping just 4 days later. I have tripped only 4 days apart before, but the dose had to be doubled just to feel anything. I usually wait at least 7 days between trips to keep the dosage low and save on the shrooms.

I will be in full swing this Saturday and post a full report.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4262565 - 06/06/05 01:51 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Awsome job man, see that weight is just right for dry weight :smile: You can understand why people were skeptical youd retain 5 or more ounces (if it dried to the 14ish).


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4271439 - 06/08/05 11:28 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Augustin, did you forget about this thread? I know I haven't...

We still want to see your trip report... looks so good.

Do you have any details about your setup, like how big the container was, how much spawn you use, h/poo you used and how big the surface area was that you grew on?


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Gatorade]
    #4271675 - 06/08/05 12:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I was just skeptical about the 6lbs wet. WOW! That's a whopper of a flush indeed. Fantastic job. That dry weight is dead on for mushrooms of the medium to large scale of size. Very nice indeed brotha! :thumbup: Got any good tips? LOL!

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4271948 - 06/08/05 01:23 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't forgotten about this thread, believe me. I have moved my trip to this Friday, as I'll be watching Tyson fight on Saturday. I will post the results on the trip on Saturday morning.

Give me a couple of hours on the details of the container and my setup. I should have the details posted by this evening. I've got too much work to do to chime in right now.

Thanks people.

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    #4271996 - 06/08/05 01:34 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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huge containers are great until you get a contam and then your screwed.




if you use fully colonized spawn with straight H, that won't be much of a problem.

poo is resistant to contaminants.
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    #4272171 - 06/08/05 02:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Who told you manure is resistant to contaminates?

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4272194 - 06/08/05 02:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I think he means colonized horse manure is resistant to contaminates, not straight horse manure. Which I agree with. Once anything is fully colonized with mycelium, the chance of contamination diminishes greatly.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4272311 - 06/08/05 02:44 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

well even then parteurized poo is fairly contam resistant.

i dont understand why suddenly people are saying its not, i seem to have seen a few people stating something along those lines recently.

other than to disable any seeds and kill bugs i hardly see a reason to even pasteurize hpoo. ever see shit piles getting green mold in a field? i grew up on/around farms, and i sure as hell havent.

i only lightly pasteurized mine (if i actually detailed my method i think some people might shit over it haha), to the point where i had a couple little plants try to grow out of one tub while the myc had almost fully colonized it :smile: that was 10 days ago. i've got three tubs of poo goign with three different strains right now, all with my bare-bones pasteurizing method and still not a hint or contams. i found that if i dont fan them a bit while its colonizing it gets a funky smell (at first i left them closed and didnt notice until the first tub stalled--after fanning once a day it resumed growth after three days) but once the myc takes over its not even a worry.

oh and good job on the ass kicking grow :thumbup: i've got a bigass tub i'm going to try this with once my orissa jars are fully colonized.


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    #4272484 - 06/08/05 03:44 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the props on the grow. I like your philosophy on the pasteurization of horse manure. I personally hate doing it. How long do you pasteurize for normally?

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    #4272523 - 06/08/05 03:56 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Right starseed1066, I feel the same way.

During my unpasteurized poo runs, none of them ever showed a hint of green mold. Unlike straw that hosts trich in an unbelieveably short amount of time even after pasteurizing, poo nearly seems immune. In my experience the only thing you'll encounter is seedlings and various small bugs in your substrate. If that doesn't bother you, why bother pasteurizing? I don't.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4272541 - 06/08/05 04:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i put it in a big pot and set it on the stove. i then fill a smaller pot with water, and heat it till small bubbles start to form and rise on/from the bottom--around 160-170 degrees, if you've got a thermometer. i then add it to the poo (which i keep outside on a screen, so when i bring it in it's cold and wet. you might have to adjust a bit if your poo is warm and or dry already) till the water level is maybe 3/4 the way up the pot. after stirring, the mix ends up around 120 degrees. i then bring more water to a boil, and pour it in the pot and stir it again. this should bring the water to around 150-160. then i let it sit till it's cooled to about 80 degrees, drain it thouroughly (this runoff water can then be used to make PF jars or simmer grain in-- i dunno about the grain but it definitely adds some nutes to the PF method) and mix in dry verm till the water content is right. then i throw the spawn and the poo/verm into my tub, mix it up, and stick it on the shelf.

seems to work well so far :smile:

heh, diver beat me to it. but yeah, i actually decided to not use straw based on diver's reccomendations. and the only reason i pasteurize at all is to kill bugs, and the earthworms that find their way in (my screen is just sitting on sticks and whatnot :laugh:). i dont know if they would, but i dont want any worms that i might miss while picking them out to go eating my mycelium :grin: although i never thought about it, i guess it might be good that i end up with some worm castings in there too.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Holydiver]
    #4272546 - 06/08/05 04:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

That figures. I sure could have used this information before I wasted my time pasteurizing my last 3 batches of horse manure. So you guys soak and that's it? How long do you soak for?

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Oops, you must have been typing when I was. Question answered. Thank you.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4272552 - 06/08/05 04:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Soak for what? To adjust moisture content pre-spawning? There's no need to "soak" so to say, just submerge, break up any remaining nuggets for more even colonization, wring out excess and lay in tubs.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Holydiver]
    #4272563 - 06/08/05 04:06 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Diver. I guess there really is nothing to soak (come on, I'm smarter than that). Did I just type that? :grin:

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4272566 - 06/08/05 04:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hehe, it's understandable. Straw has a soak period, but poo absorbs maximum water on the spot. So you submerge, wring and spawn. At least that's how I do it.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Holydiver]
    #4272570 - 06/08/05 04:08 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

also while we're on the subject, i try to not break up ALL the nuggets in the poo. my theory is that at when i start fruiting, there are still parts that arent quite colonized. i imagine that the myc still colonizes a bit while its fruiting, and if there is still a bit of uncolonized substrate in there it will help 2nd and 3rd flushes out a bit. i have no facts to suppost this yet, as i've done it both ways but the first batch is just now fruiting.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: starseed1066]
    #4272572 - 06/08/05 04:10 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I'd prefer to have 100% colonization and utilization of the substrate, but to each his own.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Holydiver]
    #4272627 - 06/08/05 04:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

hence why i'm trying it both ways. i'd rather not do it one way, and stick with it without first finding out if there's a better way. :grin: but i imagine i will find out you're right in the end :P


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: starseed1066]
    #4272996 - 06/08/05 06:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Do use the double tub type method, or have constant air exchange. I like your pasterization method, however, without a large amount of air exchange I would be really worried about contams.

Have you tried/considered not using a casing layer if you are mixing in the verm? I bet it would work fine.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: starseed1066]
    #4273019 - 06/08/05 06:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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hence why i'm trying it both ways. i'd rather not do it one way, and stick with it without first finding out if there's a better way. :grin: but i imagine i will find out you're right in the end :P




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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: chronicfatigue]
    #4273044 - 06/08/05 06:36 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you tried/considered not using a casing layer if you are mixing in the verm?  I bet it would work fine.




its funny you mention that...i was out of town memorial day weekend and i should have applied the casing layer before i left. but i came back to find primordia ALL OVER the hpoo/verm, so i tossed a casing layer on real quick and went straight to fruiting haha..my pinset is so bad they're pinning more on the sides of the substrate than on top :rotfl: so maybe i'll try going the lipa yai's like that, since my drunk ass poured WAY too much verm in the poo its like 60/40 poo/verm :grin:

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well i mean shrooms, but i guess it works for that too.

i know where your mind is..the gutter :laugh: i think that batch of penis envy is blurring your line between hobby and recreation lol


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: starseed1066]
    #4273516 - 06/08/05 08:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

This thread is so jacked, but hey I love hearing from everyone about their different methods.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4284195 - 06/11/05 05:54 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Updated trip report on page 1 folks.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4284218 - 06/11/05 05:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Updated trip report on page 1 folks.




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    #4284223 - 06/11/05 06:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Cool report.


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Shred]
    #4284297 - 06/11/05 06:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Great report Aug, and what awesome fruits. Up until now I haven't really put the PR strain in my top ten...but you just changed that. Nice.


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    #4284415 - 06/11/05 06:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks fellows. I really enjoyed this strain. EQ is also one of my favorites. Thanks to Roadkill, I'll be cultivating South Americans in the coming weeks.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4284563 - 06/11/05 07:58 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Very well written and documented report. I'm glad you enjoyed the trip. This strain looks very appealing (like everything else you do), I might have to give it a try for my next strain. I was also considering EQ's but I think I'll go with the PR's.

I am currently growing some south americans and they seem like a pretty good strain, very fast colonizers.

Good luck with growing them in the future...


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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Gatorade]
    #4284571 - 06/11/05 08:04 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Well you heard it here folks. Would you guys like to see a writeup on future strains? Any other items you would like me to grade?




Soon as I get some prints, I'll let you know :cool:

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    #4284828 - 06/11/05 10:11 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Gatorade, don't underestimate the EQ strain. They kick some serious ass. The will definitely be in my top 5.

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Wronguy]
    #4351864 - 06/29/05 05:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

i thought there are more potent when picked before maturing?

don't mind me i'm a noob =)

was just wondering why u picked them at the stage u did .....

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Re: Check out this flush of Puerto Ricans! 6 lbs. wet. [Re: Billy1111]
    #4351980 - 06/29/05 06:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Augustin, once again, nice grow, I was curious, what was your total weight after all flushes, or actually what flush are you on now, I would assume your done cause this was posted after your first grow on the 31st of May, so how was the second flush, etc.\

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