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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: zappaisgod]
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So anyone associated with Alex Jones is a troll?
Maybe you should write Yahoo, and tell them this.

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Fetzer, who retired last June after 35 years of teaching courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, expressed pleasure over the Pilot's results, which, he said, has neatly resolved the most pressing issue that remained about the Pentagon.


:rofl2: X 1000

What irony.

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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No, I just think that anybody who DOESN'T READ HIS OWN LINKS and MAKES LYING HEADLINES and makes posts over and over again that are SO FAR BEYOND SANE as to beggar belief may just be trolling. Because I personally don't think anybody could believe this shit for real. For your sake, I hope you are a troll.


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Absolute, indisputable proof that an Airplane hit the Pentagon.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30302


http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21764


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html


http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=13&articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000


http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-672210.html


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Luddite]
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"It is a commonplace that "you can't keep secrets in Washington" or "in a democracy," that "no matter how sensitive the secret, you're likely to read it the next day in the New York Times." These truisms are flatly false. They are in fact cover stories, ways of flattering and misleading journalists and their readers, part of the process of keeping secrets well. Of course eventually many secrets do get out that wouldn't in a fully totalitarian society. ... But the fact is that the overwhelming majority of secrets do not leak to the American public. This is true even when the information withheld is well known to an enemy and when it is clearly essential to the functioning of the congressional war power and to any democratic control of foreign policy. The reality unknown to the public and to most members of Congress and the press is that secrets that would be of the greatest import to many of them can be kept from them reliably for decades by the executive branch, even though they are known to thousands of insiders."
-Daniel Ellsberg, former military analyst and leaker of the "Pentagon Papers", from his book "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers"

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely referable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
- David Rockefeller in his book, 'Memoirs', pg 405


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Rahie said:
I would rather listen to professionals in the field and scholars rather than some hippys that eat mushrooms and spend all their time on a msg board.


Dude you own an asstral society message board, I'd rather be gettin' gay with teh shrooms than astral projecting myself into the land of fairies and Pan.

Good show in proving to everyone that you're a burnout with no original ideas. Try researching both sides instead of links you find on illuminatiasstrals.org

Banned for flaming, 1 day -Seuss

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Where do the Reptiloids fit in on all of this?

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: DIRTYMAN]
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DIRTYMAN said:
Rahie said:
I would rather listen to professionals in the field and scholars rather than some hippys that eat mushrooms and spend all their time on a msg board.


Dude you own an asstral society message board, I'd rather be gettin' gay with teh shrooms than astral projecting myself into the land of fairies and Pan.

Good show in proving to everyone that you're a burnout with no original ideas. Try researching both sides instead of links you find on illuminatiasstrals.org


And you are a junkie that owns a needle and a couple pictures of scat! right on man!

Banned for flaming, 1 day -Seuss

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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From the forum rules:

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1) NO FLAMING ...if you can't state your case or refute someone elses case without calling them "stupid" or an "idiot"..etc...Then don't bother posting here. This forum is for intelligent debate, not to try to belittle someone that doesn't think like you. THIS WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED ... If you have been warned already, you will receive a temporary ban, if you continue to flame you will be banned permanently...choose your words wisely or suffer the consequences.



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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Seuss]
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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Luddite]
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Just how many people do you think will understand that?


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: zappaisgod]
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I found this.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=6628&only

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?archive=052003



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Edited by Luddite (06/29/07 07:43 PM)

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Rahie said:
I would rather listen to professionals in the field and scholars rather than some hippys that eat mushrooms and spend all their time on a msg board.


Gonna have to agree with you on this. The truth is that 9/11 WAS an inside job.

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: cavemate_A]
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cavemate_A said:
Rahie said:
I would rather listen to professionals in the field and scholars rather than some hippys that eat mushrooms and spend all their time on a msg board.


Gonna have to agree with you on this. The truth is that 9/11 WAS an inside job.


AHAHA
Do you fathom how impossible it would be to keep the amount of people quiet that would be necessary to perform that kind of task? The whole controlled demolition argument is impossible. Steel does'nt need to melt to become unstable!


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: robbyberto]
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robbyberto said:
Do you fathom how impossible it would be to keep the amount of people quiet that would be necessary to perform that kind of task?


Hundreds of people were involved in the Manhattan Project, yet no one outside knew about it until the atom bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. Keeping secrets under threat of force isn't as difficult as people think.


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
robbyberto said:
Do you fathom how impossible it would be to keep the amount of people quiet that would be necessary to perform that kind of task?


Hundreds of people were involved in the Manhattan Project, yet no one outside knew about it until the atom bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. Keeping secrets under threat of force isn't as difficult as people think.


I still this it is completely ridiculous. What would be the governments motivation. Killing that many people would mean they have less people to tax, not to mention all the money they spent on emergency services, cleanup, homeland security etc...


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: robbyberto]
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The government has plenty of people to tax, and looking at the number of people in prison will clearly show that that is not a primary motivating factor in their actions. To see what motivation they would have, one need look no further than the Project for a New American Century, and notice how many former and current Bush Cabinet members belonged to that organization.


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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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War is the bis, and the bis is good.

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Hundreds of people were involved in the Manhattan Project, yet no one outside knew about it until the atom bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. Keeping secrets under threat of force isn't as difficult as people think.


What a load of bull.

There were at least two leaks in the Manhattan project, David Greenglass and Klaus Fuchs. The former was a Soviet Spy who got into the project, while the latter gave information away to the Soviet Union of his own volition.

So there you have it, even the Manhattan Project could not be kept a secret.

Do you want to try again, or are we one day going to finally admit that someone would have leaked information by now if 9/11 really was an inside job?

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Re: New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon [Re: Rahie]
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Rahie said:
I would rather listen to professionals in the field and scholars rather than some hippys that eat mushrooms and spend all their time on a msg board.


Two points:

1) An airplane pilot is no more an expert about the physics of airplane crashes than the average driver is about the physics of car crashes. If you're looking for expert opinions, look elsewhere.

2) I'm still waiting for scholars who have alternative theories to produce a coherent theory with enough evidence to get published in an established engineering/physics journal that is peer reviewed. So far this has not happened. Physicists and engineers who support the official story have had their papers published, so why can't those who oppose the official story? Why must they resort to "the Journal of 9/11 research" and similar e-rags?

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