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Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment
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I've always dried cool, with damp rid and a fan, mainly for potency issues, but after reading some posts today i realised i have never tried for myself,

So i busted out the old dehydrator, (I bought it in the mid ninetees) it has no heat control but after running it for 2 hours i stayed at 160F

So I'm trying to figure out a way to determine if there is any decrease in potency using the dehydrator vs the fan/damprid

I need help figuring out how to test this...

what i've got so far is, I would cut the shrooms from one batch in half, (to reduce the posibility of one shroom is stronger than that other) Place half in the dehydrator and half in the fan/damprid... now the issue arises because of the tolerance, I'd have to wait some time before i consume more as to not simply have one be less effective do to the amount of time between snacking on the bad boys.

I don't so much care about why one would work less effictively, if its oxidization or the heat being a catalyst or the heat itself reducing potency, its simply a Damp Rid VS Dehydrator Test...

Im sure its been done before, but i feel I must do it myself, i just need a little assistance if anyone has ideas of how I may get the most accurate results from this...

So let me know your suggestions (preferably ones on topic)


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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
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I also have a few people willing to assist, so far we figure it'll be a blind test, given one dose one week, that they will not know whether it came from A or B, and then the other dose another week, unknowing if it is also A or B


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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
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thats way too hot ..... you should get an all american... it starts off at 95degrees.... the less heat the better

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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boogertool said:
thats way too hot ..... you should get an all american... it starts off at 95degrees.... the less heat the better


I've heard anything less than 400 is fine,
i've heard anything less than 200 is fine
I've heard 160 is too much but 150 is perfect
I've heard anything over 100 is bad...

Without someone having any sort of definitive proof they can show me, i've decided to at least try to come up with a way to prove to myself whether or not it is a factor..

Once again, this is not a debate on temperature, or at what point does the potency begin to reduce, or what product i should get instead, Its an attempt to get a compare and contrast the damp rid vs the 160F dehydrator


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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
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you've heard bullshitt then.... i dont see the point of this post... if your mind is set on 160 then wtf do you need any advice for? use the right tool for the job an(nesco @95) and keep your oldschool for jerky

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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Seriously, that is your opinion. Many different people on this website who could be considered "experienced mycologists" have many different views on this subject.

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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but he's heard under 400,200 come on! its just stupid

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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I'd like to present this gem:

RogerRabbit said:
None of the above explains why you can cook them on a BBQ grill at 1000 degrees and they're still potent as hell. In addition, people have boiled them into tea for years, and if anything, it hits harder than eating them when they've never been exposed to heat. There's entirely too much opinion and no facts being presented.

Long term heat 'may' have an effect, but short term heat seems not to cause noticeable degradation. People with actual experience using food dehydrators report little to no loss in potency from drying that way.
RR


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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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when boiled in tea they only reach those temps for a short period of time.... not for a couple days like they would in a dehydrator.... why gamble with something so precious?

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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I wouldn't think it would take a couple of days in the dehydrator @ 160. If it were me, I'd give it 8 hours, and see how dry they are. Do these dehydrators come with a fan to circulate air? Sorry for my ignorance on the subject, but I don't use a dehydrator.

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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it can take quite a long while sometimes actually depending on the amount to be dried but yes the nesco has a fan..... from the post you linked up just now it says roncos dont have a fan though..... that coud be another drawback for him if thats what he has

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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The way I look at it is this:  Drying with heat may reduce potency, but that's just an excuse for me to eat more! :thumbup: 

Seriously, this is a cult forum.  It's not like these jokers are running a shortage on these bad boys...

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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there ya go! thats the good ole american spirit.... be wastefull lol

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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Eh, some people trip to find themselves, I trip to find a whole different dimension.

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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haha i hear ya ..... you're pretty cool dude... i like you.... 5 shrooms

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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ty, and backatcha. :toast:

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
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If you're planning on using peeps and their "reactions" to the drug for any kind on validation , your experiment is a joke .

You'd have to actually extract the "magic" and weight it .

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: boogertool]
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boogertool said:
you've heard bullshitt then.... i dont see the point of this post... if your mind is set on 160 then wtf do you need any advice for? use the right tool for the job an(nesco @95) and keep your oldschool for jerky


And "where" are you coming from . I started out drying at 95 degrees , per all the "pros" advice . Now , 2 years later , I dry at 150-160 and no one has said anything to me about potency loss . . We're talking a couple hundred pounds dried this way .

And I have a Nesco , the right tool , for the job , I just use it at 160 degrees .:thumbup:

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: HippieChick]
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HippieChick said:
[ We're talking a couple hundred pounds dried this way .



Preparing for an apocalypse, or something? :tongue:

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Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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GoodbyeOrb said:
HippieChick said:
[ We're talking a couple hundred pounds dried this way .



Preparing for an apocalypse, or something? :tongue:


That's wet weight , LMAO .;)

Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
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