|
 Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
 LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
 Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment  [Re: boogertool]
#7074888 - 06/21/07 11:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
boogertool said:
you've heard bullshitt then.... i dont see the point of this post... if your mind is set on 160 then wtf do you need any advice for? use the right tool for the job an(nesco @95) and keep your oldschool for jerky
A note, it takes about 6-12 hours in the dehyrdator to become cracker dry.
I don't need advice for "HOW TO DRY MUSHROOMS" I need Advice on How to make an accurate determination on whether or not there is a noticeable significant loss between damp rid drying and a dehydrator at 160. Without having much in the way of lab equiptment. I've been using a Drying Chamber with a fan and damp rid for quite some time.
If there isn't, a loss, then I may try to find a dehydrator that goes to 200.
This reason why i am doing this is for the same reason as whats happening in this post, Someone has come up and said dehydrator at 95 is the way to go, someone else has argued that higher temp is ok...
Everyone is very quick to debate the issue, very few have any sort of evidence or experience that they can back up there statements with.
If I do a compare and contrast, then at least i can form my own opinion on the subject and not mearly use the opinions of others while having no experience of my own. I'm most likely not going to join any debates on the issue, but perhaps I would at least be able to tell people, I did this little experiment, these were my results, take it or leave it...
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: HippieChick]
#7074931 - 06/21/07 12:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
HippieChick said:
If you're planning on using peeps and their "reactions" to the drug for any kind on validation , your experiment is a joke .
You'd have to actually extract the "magic" and weight it .
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
 Hippie Chick 
Experiment may not be the best choice of phrase in this particular forum, the whole aura of science that surrounds cultivation, perhaps leads one to believe that I am somehow trying to come up with a definitive answer that has a 99.99994 accuracy rate backed up by hardcore scientific evidence.
Think of it more along the lines of, 4 out of 5 of my friends who have experienced soda many times over the years prefer pepsi in a blind taste test.
I guess that idea would be more of a survey of a controlled group, People who i know have tried the same amount, prepared in two different ways..
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
#7074950 - 06/21/07 12:04 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
And for whoever that asked, its an old westinghouse dehdrator, 7 layers, with a fan, and the heating element IS removable.
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
HippieChick
Chicks can do it too!
Registered: 02/20/05
Posts: 5,958
Loc: Midwest
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
#7075053 - 06/21/07 12:26 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LVL12 said:
Quote:
HippieChick said:
If you're planning on using peeps and their "reactions" to the drug for any kind on validation , your experiment is a joke .
You'd have to actually extract the "magic" and weight it .
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
Hippie Chick
Experiment may not be the best choice of phrase in this particular forum, the whole aura of science that surrounds cultivation, perhaps leads one to believe that I am somehow trying to come up with a definitive answer that has a 99.99994 accuracy rate backed up by hardcore scientific evidence.
Think of it more along the lines of, 4 out of 5 of my friends who have experienced soda many times over the years prefer pepsi in a blind taste test.
I guess that idea would be more of a survey of a controlled group, People who i know have tried the same amount, prepared in two different ways..
You say this will give YOU validation , but when I say I've done this with my friends , for the last 2 1/2 years with pounds upon pounds of mushrooms , you say no one has done it . Why don't I have the validation you're looking to obtain with only a smaller number of test subjects .
Believe me , if there was a noticable loss of potency drying at 160 versus 95 , I would have heard about it
Put this post to bed 
I'm sure there is some loss , but noticable , not to the naked brain
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
Hippie Chick
--------------------
Peace,Love and Happiness
HC
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............
I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848
My First Pans
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058
|
LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: HippieChick]
#7075095 - 06/21/07 12:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
HippieChick said:
You say this will give YOU validation , but when I say I've done this with my friends , for the last 2 1/2 years with pounds upon pounds of mushrooms , you say no one has done it . Why don't I have the validation you're looking to obtain with only a smaller number of test subjects .
Actually, it was one of your posts that inspired me to give it a try for myself, before reading that and then doing further searches I was in the "heat dramaticaly reduces potency" group, then I realised I had no experience of it for myself,
I also wouldnt mind seeing this thread closed/die. All i was really hopeing for here was for people to give me a little advice on reducing outside factors when comparing on contrasting, but its very apparent now that is not going to happen, its a debate that seems to strike very strong opinions from both sides, it was not meant to be a debate thread.
Also i started this thread a few days ago without comment, i figured it was going to die then, but seemed to gain a little momentum here in the last 6 hours or so, But its not achieving any sort of "helpful to the topic" responces, probably my fault for not clarifying exactly what i was going for here.
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
HippieChick
Chicks can do it too!
Registered: 02/20/05
Posts: 5,958
Loc: Midwest
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
#7075122 - 06/21/07 12:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
You can't really use peeps and their reactions as a feasible measure of potency loss . You could feed the SAME mushrooms to the same person on 2 different occasions and get some type of difference . Depending on test subjects mood , surrounding and so on and so on .
This is just another one of the "things" that has changed so much since I've been here , lol .
Do whatever works for you , 95 or 160 . I haven't seen any difference .
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony
Hippie Chick
--------------------
Peace,Love and Happiness
HC
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose..............
I LUV My Greenhouse
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848
My First Pans
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058
|
LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: HippieChick]
#7075161 - 06/21/07 12:54 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
HippieChick said:
You could feed the SAME mushrooms to the same person on 2 different occasions and get some type of difference . Depending on test subjects mood , surrounding and so on and so on .
OK, this is most likely my last post in this particular thread, I am just a compulsive clarifier. What i was going to do is divide each individual shroom in half, take one half and dry w/ damp rid, take another half and dry in dehydrator. Label one bag something along the lines of 1A and the other bag 1B... Then person one would take bag 1A one time, and then at a later date would take bag 1B, they would not be informed how bag A or B was dried. Another person would have 2A and 2B.
However due to outside circumstances, like set and setting, any medications or food taking previous may effect experience, so it has the potential to not be a very accurate method, to try to offset that a bit, I'd try myself along with a few other people, in hopes to achieve a similar result/exerience with everyone or at least the majority.
Quote:
HippieChick said:
Do whatever works for you , 95 or 160 . I haven't seen any difference .
This is the outcome i suspect.
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
LVL12
Author andPerfector ofFailure
Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 483
Last seen: 1 year, 11 months
|
Re: Need help with damp rid vs dehydrator experiment [Re: LVL12]
#7079751 - 06/22/07 01:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
UPDATE: After a little mini trial run, where both 2 people sampled a very low amount (About 1/3 size of normal dosage for those particular people) that were in the dehydrator at 160 for approx 12 hours and cracker dry, there was no noticable loss of potency, and I was dancing on the edge of ego loss, and very happy that a full dose was not consumed. Therefor i feel no need for further experimentation, I am convinced that there is little if any loss of potency due to the dehydrator, and if there is a loss of potency it is not noticable and definatly worth the convience of the dehydrator.
--------------------
Disclaimer: Posts from LVL12 are strictly for entertainment and are a work of fiction, nothing written or said by LVL12 should in interpreted as truth, fact or by their literal definitions or translations. Anyone who reads/listens to these words does so at their own risk, parental discretion is advised.
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Buy Bali Kratom Powder 
Red Vein Kratom 
North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies 
Buy Kratom Extract 
All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck 
Olympus Myco Sterilized Grain Bag for Spawn
Edit 
Reply 
the_Landotter
1stimer
kemikal
etard