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Re: Busted! [Re: thedudenj]
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yep your correct.
anyway..some how we got side tracked form the real reason this threads open...a fellow shroomite got busted...
all the best and hope to see you soon UAREWOTUEAT


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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We got side tracked when you started spouting your ill informed opinions.


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Re: Busted! [Re: Hanky]
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last word hanky?
lol... not opinion..FACT
show some respect...


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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and has the vote come in yet about you being HOLY GHOST or HOLY HOMO?
just wondering


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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OMGLOL, I'm going to run out and shut down my grow because them helicopters can see my plants through the roof!


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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cheesie- keep your flames to OTD, they haven no business here in the garden. Yes you proved your point that it IS possible to get busted from an IR scan in a police copter. However the likelihood of this happening is extremely slim, most busted grows come from nosy neighbors, poor security (smell and light leaks, improperly disposed soil and trimmings), vengeful exes, or self righteous family members.

Most home growers keep very few plants in the flowering chamber, the most i've had going at once was six, due to this it's rare that you see someone running more then 2000 watts of light in a home op. Also, it's a helluva lot harder to hide a 1000+ plant grow then it is to hide a 20 plant grow, most commercial growers are busted because they steal electricity and sooner or later someone from the power company catches on when a power drainage or brownouts are reoccuring and come from the same spot.

Also, like previously mentioned, IR scans and things like electricity bills are pretty much inadmissible in court, the likelihood of a cop flying around residential areas looking for indoor grow ops is rare. Most of the time they look for outdoor plots or scan suspected warehouse/commercial op grows which usually are tipped off by informants or something like the power company catching on.

With that said, yes it sucks uarewhatueat got busted, i'd like to know the circumstances behind the case as well. We just had a recent case in my town where a 60 yr old medical patient was raided by a drug task force because her daughter turned her in.


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Re: Busted! [Re: coda]
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i apologise for the flaming coda...
this thread was started by a fellow who got busted and unfortunately the conversation got side tracked.


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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cheesie said:
from what i hear a helicoptor or plane can see an attic grow stick out like a sore thumb...extremely easily.
they will in the evening fly over an area and check for massive heat signitures with thermal camera's.....it is how the bust large scale grows.Especially when the whole house is a grow room.
You might as well put a sign up saying i grow MJ here.
Apparently the heat camera is so good it can show the setup very well as the heat coming off the plants and equipment sillouttes everything.
It is not paranoia it actually happens.




Says you..... wich isnt saying much. Optimal growing temp 72 a whole house being 72 OH NO!!!!

Please


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Re: Busted! [Re: budmanman]
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Please, this has been gone trough pretty thoroughly, lets not continue... There's no use, and it's not what the thread was about initially.. Lets just wait a few days and see what happened when uare returns..


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Re: Busted! [Re: cheesie]
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cheesie said:
i apologise for the flaming coda...
this thread was started by a fellow who got busted and unfortunately the conversation got side tracked.



It's cool, just keep in mind when you're arguing or debating flames detract from whatever you're trying to prove.  Basically they're ad hominem attacks and if you've taken logic you'll know that they can be used to debunk arguments. 

At some point you just gotta agree to disagree and move on.  At the end of it if you turn your arguments into a giant flame fest you're proving nothing and just wasting time on a forum :wink:

thanks for keeping it in check, don't want to see this thread get shut down.

Budman- points have been assessed and noted by everyone, no more argument needed :smile:


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)



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Re: Busted! [Re: Nalim]
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outdoor plants giving off a heat signature, thats new to me. MJ is hotter than all other surrounding vegetation? From an arial persprective, IR cameras will detect spikes in heat, but as far as busting outdoor grows from the air, cops just look for that unearthly shade of green that only seems to occur in MJ plants. Ive seen episodes of cops in hawaii where the cop explained that the plant is easily spotted from the air because it almost never blends in with surrounding vegetation. that and perhaps the glimmer of THC crystals on the top buds. Towards the end of the segment, right after he explains why there are pulled male plants on the ground, He molests a fat bud and says "yup, thats what theyre after... sensimilla" then they load up all the plants onto a net and airlift them back to HQ. Come back soon UARE!!!

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Re: Busted! [Re: hooksbooks]
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ok, guys, seriously, ENOUGH with the IR scans.  Talk about beating a dead horse lol.

Argument is over, no need to go into it any further, please just comment on OP's situation.

thanks :smile:


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To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . .

-JG

i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)



Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.

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Re: Busted! [Re: coda]
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Well, this one time at IR camp......


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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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Re: Busted! [Re: VirgilKane]
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:banbanban:  :stopsign: :mad2: hehe


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-JG

i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

-A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)



Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.

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Re: Busted! [Re: coda]
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Sorry, I couldn't control myself.:blush:

Hope everything works out for 'ya, uarewotueat.  I'm bummed to hear about your misfortune.


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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
Terence McKenna

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Re: Busted! [Re: coda]
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so ura, what do you think tipped them off?

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Re: Busted! [Re: strangladesh]
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I just need to add this... several people around where I live have been busted. In the spring/summer there is a plane that circles around our town looking for grows..

Obviously you can circumvent it with proper cooling & a carbon filter; but many people around here have been busted this way.

This is why I grow mushrooms :grin:; them pigs have really cracked down on cannabis over here.. 80% of our crops are homegrown, The reason we've had gritty weed is because there were so many raids last year that we had to import / cut the supply to satisfy our needs..

Fucking pigs.

Anyways I feel for you urwotueat


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Re: Busted! [Re: coda]
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helocopters can use IR to detect MJ plants outside, and it is true that MJ plants give off a different signature than other plants. But that last part is a bit of a misnomer. Two different species of plants will give off two different readings. The way IR works to spot MJ is to look for artificial patterns.

If you have an area with 100 plants, and there are 40-60 different species.(basically like in nature), nothing is going to stick out. But if you have 100 plants, in the same area, and 15 of them are significantly larger, planted in straight lines, flourshing better than the surrounding vegetation, etc, etc, they tend to stick out.


Any outdoor grower, worth there weight, would not worry too much about hilos.

non linear, spread out, and well disguised FTW


(sry coda, i just wanted to explain how it works, and how to avoid it, MJ is not a glowing beacon of IR energy! This is what we need the growery for!)


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Re: Busted! [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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Healthy plants in general, not just MJ show up as dark red on IR images, the problem is when MJ is grown in dryer natural areas where the surrounding veg has much less access to water and good nutrients as these plants will be show much lighter tones on an IR image. In a healthy suburban garden this isn't an issue.

There is some great IR air photos of this phenomena in one of Ed Rosenthals old grow guides. I tried to find the images online but had no luck.


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Re: Busted! [Re: Hanky]
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sad news UR, i just hate how cops have no respect for living plants :sad:
if they find anything out of order they feel like they have the right to rape all the rest of your belongings and that just gets me mad!

good luck and a quick "recovery" :smirk:
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