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Re: Report: France warned CIA before 9/11 attacks [Re: Madtowntripper]
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And do you know they cited the correct companies? Do you have the actual report? Because the news clipping that you posted states that the report indicated "companies". It most certainly does NOT say that they indicated the actual airlines used in the attack.


Indeed they did.

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"In early 2000 in Kabul, Afghanistan, bin Laden met with Taliban leaders and members of armed groups from Chechnya and discussed the possibility of hijacking a plane that would take off from Frankfurt, Germany, the note said, citing Uzbek intelligence," the AP relates from the French report. "The note listed potential targets: American Airlines, Delta Airlines, Continental Airlines, United Airlines, Air France and Lufthansa. The list also included a mention of 'US Aero,' but it was unclear exactly what that referred to."

Subsequently, two were "finally chosen by the pirates of the September 11: American Airlines and United Airlines," Le Monde reported.



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Re: Report: France warned CIA before 9/11 attacks [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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Well, no they didn't. The article reports that the intelligence listed 7 airlines. Only 2 were actually used, which was noted as part of an after report. Not useful information.


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Re: Report: France warned CIA before 9/11 attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
2 were actually used


So they did list specific airlines that would be targeted.


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Re: Report: France warned CIA before 9/11 attacks [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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No, they listed 7 of the most heavily traveled airlines. Useless info.


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Re: Report: France warned CIA before 9/11 attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
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The information could have been used to-

1-Investigate the vulnerabilities of such airlines. Even to this day the security of such airlines are insufficient by many standards (the person's in charge of security at airlines have usually been on the job for less then six months and are often times paid barely more then minimum wage).

2- Warn such airlines directly by forwarding the warning to them. I'm sure they would have liked to have known that agents which infiltrated Al-Qaeda stated that the organization was working on a program which could involve one of their planes. Given such data some of the described airlines may have taken measures of their own to prevent the hijackings.

3- Used the information in conjunction with the data from other intelligence agencies to keep a record of like Al-Qaeda members specifically attending such flights such as the 9/11 perpetrators whom were under investigation by the government and had expired visas. Remember a major criticism of our intelligence agencies with respect to 9/11 is that they failed to communicate between each other properly. Who knows how much data was presented on the likely assault of the WTC by hijacked planes which in isolation would be meaningless but which when corroborated by similar findings in other agencies could have enabled intelligence analysts to develop effective protocols, increased certainty on the specific course of action taken by Al-Qaeda insurgents and more specific lines of investigation.

4- Used to investigate what correctable vulnerabilities the WTC itself had to such an attack, and the impact of such an attack on the public, and local emergency response units. For example- an evacuation plan may have been useful in saving lives of those at the WTC and training for firefighters in case of such an emergency could have been suggested.

5- Presented as a warning to relevant persons in the WTC. I'm sure like the above airlines, officials and concerned citizens themselves would have liked to have been aware of the warning from French intelligence officers who had infiltrated the Al-Qaeda organization.

Seeing as an attempt to destroy the world trade center had already occurred the Intelligence Agencies should have been sensitive on a matter like the above, especially since the intelligence was coming from agents who had infiltrated Al-Qaeda's organization.

Whether you think the Intelligence was useful is not a matter you are qualified to decide so directly. Other factors must be taken into account such as what lines of investigation such information made prudent, whether appropriate private citizens and local officials could have made use of the data, and whether the information if corroborated with intelligence on Al-Qaeda from other sources could have helped prevent the 9/11 attacks.


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