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Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins
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FULL MOVIE
G. Edward Griffin - A World Without Cancer - The Story Of Vitamin B17
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507&q=vitamin+b17&hl=en

SAME MOVIE BROKEN UP
1. Cure Your Cancer - Undisclosed Research
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufqmXporc4c


2. Cure Your Cancer - B17/Cycle of Tumors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1L2bUAfYLo


3. Cure Your Cancer - The Role of Laetrile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfJg--wjw8


4. Cure Your Cancer - Dosage/Case Studies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9FwjqaQ-y8


5. Cure Your Cancer - Tell Your Friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbvtJydMtu8





Hoxsey - How Healing Becomes A Crime. alt. cancer cure
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5528328984547372206&q=hoxsey&hl=en

This documentary concerns Harry M. Hoxsey, the former coal miner whose family's herbal recipe has brought about claims of a cancer cure. All starting in 1924 with his first clinic, he expanded to 17 states by the mid 1950s, along the way constantly battling organized medicine that labeled him a charlatan. Hoxsey's supporters point out he was the victim of arrests, or "quackdowns" spearheaded by the proponents of established medical practices. Interviews of patients satisfied with the results of the controversial treatment are balanced with physicians from the FDA and the AMA. A clinic in Tijuana, Mexico claims an 80% success rate, while opponents are naturally skeptical. What is apparent is that cancer continues to be one of humankind's more dreaded diseases, and that political and economic forces dominate research and development.

Cure for Cancer through Apple and Apricot seeds
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2793380650380830725&q=vitamin+b17&hl=en

Jason Vale, Champion arm wrestler has fought and cured cancer 3 times through eating raw apple and apricot seeds that contain a little ... all ยป known vitamin B17. The Big Pharmaceutical giants don't want people to know this little fact so they have encouraged the FDA to ban the sale of raw apricot or Vitamin B17 ~ Amygdalin Laetrile as it is also known. You can however order the seeds online from other countries. Search the web... there are endless testimonials of persons that have sent various cancers into complete remission because of these little seeds. God Bless you... there is always a way to LIFE in his Kingdom!

The Illusion Of Disease
By Mike Adams
3-14-5


There is a curious tendency in conventional medicine to label a set of symptoms as a disease. For example, I recently spotted a poster touting a new drug for osteoporosis. It was written by a drug company and it said this: "Osteoporosis is a disease that causes weak and fragile bones." The poster went on to say that you need a particular drug to counteract this "disease."

Yet the language is all backward. Osteoporosis is not a disease that causes weak bones. Osteoporosis is the name given to a diagnosis of weak bones. In other words, the weak bones happened first, and then the diagnosis followed.

Another drug company defines osteoporosis as "the disease that causes bones to become thinner." Again, the cause and effect are reversed. And that's how drug companies want people to think about diseases and symptoms: First you "get" the disease, then you are "diagnosed" just in time to take an expensive new drug for the rest of your life.

But it's all hogwash. There is no such disease as osteoporosis. It's just a name for a pattern of symptoms that indicate you've let your bones get fragile. And to treat it, western doctors will give you prescriptions for drugs that claim to make your bones less brittle.

We should really call it Brittle Bones Disease, and describe the treatment in plain language - exercise, vitamin D, mineral supplements with calcium and strontium, natural sunlight, and the avoidance of substances like soft drinks, white flour, and added sugars, which strip away bone mass.

Diabetes is another condition given a complex name that puts its solution out of reach of the average patient. Type 2 diabetes isn't technically a disease. It's just a natural metabolic side effect of consuming refined carbohydrates and added sugars in large quantities without engaging in regular physical exercise.

The name "diabetes" is meaningless to the average person. It should be called Excessive Sugar Disease. If it were called Excessive Sugar Disease, the solution to it would be rather apparent.

Cancer is another disease named after its symptom. To this day, most doctors and patients still believe that cancer is a physical thing: a tumor. In reality, a tumor is only a side effect of cancer, not its cause. A tumor is simply a physical manifestation of a cancer pattern that is expressed by the body.

When a person "has cancer," what they really have is a sluggish or suppressed immune system. And that would be a far better name for the disease: Suppressed Immune System Disorder.

If cancer were actually called that, it would seem ridiculous to try to cure it by cutting out tumors and destroying the immune system with chemotherapy. These are the two most popular treatments for cancer, and they do nothing to support the patient's immune system or prevent future occurrences. That's exactly why most people who undergo chemotherapy or the removal of tumors end up with yet more cancer down the road.

The cure for cancer already exists, and it's found in every human body. Your body kills cancer cells as a routine daily task, and it has done it thousands of times in your lifetime.

All we have to do is stop poisoning our bodies with cancer-causing chemicals and start feeding ourselves the materials our bodies need to beat chronic disease. Instead of searching for new technological cures, our money and time would be better spent making people aware of the existing cures and prevention strategies available right now.

Here's another example: high cholesterol. Conventional medicine says that high cholesterol is caused by a chemical imbalance in the liver, the organ that produces cholesterol. Thus the treatment is drugs (statin drugs) that inhibit the liver's production of cholesterol. Upon taking these drugs, the high cholesterol (the "disease") is regulated.

But the fatal flaw in this approach is once again evident: The symptom is not the cause of the disease. There is another cause, one that is routinely ignored by conventional medicine, doctors, drug companies, and even patients. The root cause of high cholesterol is primarily dietary. A person who eats foods that are high in saturated fats and hydrogenated oils will inevitably produce more bad cholesterol. It's simple cause and effect, not some bizarre behavior by the liver.

"There's a great deal of ego invested in the medical community, and they sure don't want to make health sound attainable to the average person."

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If the disease were accurately named, it would be called Fatty Food Choice Disease. That would make more sense to people. And the obvious solution to the disease would be to choose foods that aren't so fatty. Of course, that may be a bit of an oversimplification, since you have to distinguish between healthy fats and unhealthy fats. But at least the name would give patients a better idea of what's actually going on.

Outside the United States , the names of diseases in other languages (such as Chinese) more accurately describe their actual causes. In western medicine, however, the name of the disease obscures the root cause. That makes all diseases sound far more complex and mysterious than they really are.

That's a shame, because the treatments and cures for virtually all chronic diseases are actually quite simple and can be described in plain language. Preventing and reversing these diseases only requires language that describes things like making different food choices, getting more natural sunlight, drinking more water, engaging in regular physical exercise, avoiding specific toxins, supplementing your diet, and so on.

There is a degree of arrogance in the language of western medicine, and this arrogance propagates the separation between doctors and their patients. Separation never results in healing. In order to create healing, we must bring together healers and patients by using plain language that real people understand and that real people can act upon.

There's a great deal of ego invested in the medical community, and they sure don't want to make health sound attainable to the average person. Making the language of disease complicated keeps it out of reach of the public.

But health is attainable by every single person. It isn't rocket science. It's not complex. And it doesn't require a prescription. Health is easy, it is straightforward, and it is direct. And, for the most part, it is available free of charge if you invoke the healing power of sunlight, pure water, stress reduction, exercise, and healthy food choices.

Mike Adams is a holistic nutritionist and author of more than 1,500 articles on disease prevention, conventional medicine, and more. He posts new articles daily at http://www.NewsTarget.com. His downloadable e-books (many are free) are published at Are you Ready for The Cure for Cancer?


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: Shroomism]
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personally...I like Denis Leary's 'No Cure For Cancer' better myself  :wink:

part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4
part 5
part 6
part 7
part 8
part 9



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:craven:  Ravings of a Madman  :craven:

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: Shroomism]
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available free of charge if you invoke the healing power of sunlight, pure water, stress reduction, exercise, and healthy food choices.

:thumbup:

But how will the multi-billion dollar health "care" industry make any money off that prescription??  :tongue:

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: Shroomism]
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This should be in MRP.

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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disagreed. this is no speculation. cancer is curable and there are many clinics today successfully using alternative medicine to treat this disease.


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said:
available free of charge if you invoke the healing power of sunlight, pure water, stress reduction, exercise, and healthy food choices.

:thumbup:



prevention before intervention. :sunny:


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: AlteredAgain]
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Show me a clinic that has cured cancer with B17.
The Mayo clinic already tried using this with one hundred and seventy three patients and not one tumor was even reduced in size.

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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i don't know of a clinic that has cured cancer with vitamin B17. i haven't yet done my research on this method.

all i'm saying is that there are healers out there, especially concentrated in south america and east asia, who use alchemical as well as shamanic means to cure cancer patients from around the world.


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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its because its a holstic approach that cures it not just a magic pill...


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: rubixcubies]
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There have in fact been clinical trials with laetrile (B 17) and its ability to "cure" cancer"

The first was a trial of 178 patients:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=7033783&query_hl=4&itool=pubmed_docsum

where they concluded: "Amygdalin (Laetrile) is a toxic drug that is not effective as a cancer treatment."

The fact is, when you look at the hard data and actual documented studies of these alternative therapies, they simply haven't proven to be effective.

This is why all the "evidence" you see for these types of "cures" are in self published literature and are only present in anecdotal reports. When you actualy subject these treatments to rigorous scientific investigation; they fail.

You will also notice the "information" on these alternative cures " can be yours for the low price of buying my book...order today, or you will die".

These people pray on people's ignorance and take advantage of those with terminal illness. It's a shame they are allowed to continue manipulating people in this way.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: badchad]
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It's a shame some peoples knee-jerk reaction is to automatically try and debunk such information without even looking at the evidence.


badchad said:
There have in fact been clinical trials with laetrile (B 17) and its ability to "cure" cancer"

The first was a trial of 178 patients:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=7033783&query_hl=4&itool=pubmed_docsum

where they concluded: "Amygdalin (Laetrile) is a toxic drug that is not effective as a cancer treatment."

You will also notice the "information" on these alternative cures " can be yours for the low price of buying my book...order today, or you will die".

These people pray on people's ignorance and take advantage of those with terminal illness. It's a shame they are allowed to continue manipulating people in this way.



Hey, that's a nice one-sided clinical study performed in 1982.. but I fail to see how this discredits everything or anything I just posted.

And where do you see anything about buying a book? If you watch the videos I posted, they are in fact... free of charge. The ONLY one saying order today or you die, is in fact.. the medical industry.

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The fact is, when you look at the hard data and actual documented studies of these alternative therapies, they simply haven't proven to be effective.

This is why all the "evidence" you see for these types of "cures" are in self published literature and are only present in anecdotal reports. When you actualy subject these treatments to rigorous scientific investigation; they fail.



Yeah, mmhm. That's how my aunt cured her colon cancer after doctors told her she had no hope of recovery. You talk about "hard data" and "documented" studies, I tell you my aunt is still alive, when doctors said she was supposed to be dead 5 years ago.

Keep fighting the good fight..


Also... what makes eating a healthy balanced diet, in lieu of drugs.. an "alternative therapy" exactly? Could you please explain this to me?

In the first video, it gives several examples of the ineptitude of the medical industry. For example.. back in the 1400s, entire ships were being wiped out by scurvy. The medical authorities were looking all over the ships to find what "disease" might be causing this, but were unable to find anything. When one ship got stranded in the middle of winter, and all his men were dying.. a native showed him to take the tree bark of white pine, and pine needles.. and brew it into a tea (contains high amounts of ascorbic acid).. this brew produced immediate results and a swift recovery for most of the crew. Astonished, the captain took his fleet back to england and told the medical authorities about this discovery. They told him he was a fool to buy into such witchcraft from primitives. Sound familiar?

Years later scurvy was still a problem, even though the cure was well known. It took almost 100 years and millions of deaths later until they finally got their heads out of their ass. Just due to a few people's arrogance.


The moral of the story is that most "diseases" are not diseases caused by some strange unknown strain of virus or bacteria.. they are usually a deficiency of certain vitamins and minerals in the human body. It is folly to treat such a "disease" with drugs to counteract the symptoms.. when the simple cure can be found by eating healthy food, getting exercise, fresh water, and sunshine. I don't see what's "alternative" about that. Sounds NATURAL to me.

PREYING ON THE IGNORANT?
SELLING BOOKS?
Spew more trash why don't you.


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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MushmanTheManic said:
Show me a clinic that has cured cancer with B17.
The Mayo clinic already tried using this with one hundred and seventy three patients and not one tumor was even reduced in size.



Clinics aren't in the business of curing ANYTHING because they don't make money off cures. Fact. They make money off of continual treatment and expensive medications. Fact.

Cancer is one of the biggest money making industries in the world today. If you all of a sudden had a cure for cancer.. A LOT of people would be out of jobs. It would most definitely NOT be in their best interest to go touting cures.

You want to talk about scams and preying on the ignorant? Where should I begin?


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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
It's a shame some peoples knee-jerk reaction is to automatically try and debunk such information without even looking at the evidence.



So a youtube video of people saying "this works" is your evidence? I would certainly be open to any type of documented trials and/or claims of these things working to cure cancer.


Shroomism said:
Hey, that's a nice one-sided paragraph written in 1982.. but I fail to see how this discredits everything I just posted.



Actually, that is a controlled clinical trial. How does that discredit what you've posted? Here's what they did in the study:

1. They gave people laetrile (B 17)
2. It did not cure their cancer.

Shroomism said:
Yeah, mmhm. That's how my aunt cured her colon cancer after doctors told her she had no hope of recovery. You talk about "hard data" and "documented" studies, I tell you my aunt is still alive, when doctors said she was supposed to be dead 5 years ago.

Keep fighting the good fight..



This is exactly my point. When actually studied under rigorous conditions most alternative cures do nothing. The hard evidence isn't there.

One person spontaneously recovering from cancer is what we call an "anecdotal report". The result will not consistently be repeated. This is the only "evidence" people can provide that these cures work (in most instances).

Believing in unfounded claims sends medicine back into the dark ages. As long as we're doing so, these cures should be supplemented with another wonderful therapy: prayer.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Cure for Cancer & Other Diseases through Simple Food & Vitamins [Re: badchad]
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No, I think what keeps us in the dark ages is this notion that everything has to be conducted in a "controlled laboratory setting" with "double-blind placebos" and published in a "peer-reviewed journal" for it to be considered valid. And that anything outside of that is invalid. Laboratory results can easily be and have been manipulated to produce the desired results. They mean nothing.
Sorry, but the real world doesn't work like that. We don't live in some laboratory. If something works, it works. And I can tell you from personal experience that a healthy diet DOES IN FACT WORK.

There's nothing "Alternative" about these cures. It's simple logic that any normal person can apply without knowing any exotic sounding names of some obscure "disease".

So what's to hurt by publishing this information? Surely I'm not selling anything.. and surely I'm just giving advice. And none of this advice could potentially kill you. You don't have to try it. Of course if you get cancer and you'd rather get chemotherapy than try vitamins, be my guest.


As for your study being bulletproof.. not really. It says nothing in there of the duration of the study, what their diet was, or any of the other hundreds of variables that can effect such a study. If you actually watch the video, it states taking a steady supply of B17 from whole foods for several years. From that study it sounds like they got B17 from a pharmaceutical source, and administered it for three hours, before closing the case and saying it doesn't work. It's a controlled clinical trial all right. Nothing you would ever encounter in the real world, that's for sure.

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To base the whole argument of whether Laetrile works or not on laboratory experiments and their results is ludicrous. Humans conduct these experiments and humans lie. Since cancer research and treatments run into the billions of dollars, the government agencies along with the major cancer research centers will always hide the truth. To be able to cure cancer with something so "trivial and inexpensive" a treatment is tantamount to all Laetrile research by cancer research centers being sabotaged.




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However, there are a few honest researchers with integrity who have not played the political cancer game. Money is not what motivates these people but the search for truth does. Here are their names with a brief synopsis of their experiments with Laetrile:

Dr. Ernest T. Krebs, Jr. a biochemist and the researcher who first isolated Laetrile in apricot seeds and also discovered B-15 (panoramic acid, a vitamin which has been proven to be an important adjunctive therapy in the treatment of illnesses related to circulation). He spent three years of anatomy and medicine at Hahnemann Medical College and then changed his direction and became a doctor of biochemistry. He did undergraduate work at the University of Illinois between 1938-41. He did graduate work at the University of Mississippi and also at the University of California. By 1950, he had isolated the nutritional factor in crystalline form and named it Laetrile. He tested it on animals to make sure that it was not toxic. He then had to prove that it was not toxic to humans. There was only one thing to do. He rolled up his sleeve and injected Laetrile into his own arm. As he predicted, there were no harmful or distressing side effects. (I find it interesting to note that Dr. Krebs was more than willing to test his theory about Laetrile on himself while cancer doctors and their personnel take great precautions to be sure they themselves are not exposed to the drugs they administer to their cancer victims, I mean patients.) Dr. Krebs authored many scientific papers in his lifetime. He was the recipient of numerous honors and doctorates both at home and abroad. He was the science director of the John Beard Memorial Foundation before his death in 1996.

Dr. Dean Burk, Director of the Cytochemistry Section of the federal government's National Cancer Institute reported that, in a series of tests on animal tissue, the (Laetrile) vitamin B-17 had no harmful effect on normal cells but was deadly to a cancer cell. In another series of tests, Dr. Burk reported that Laetrile was responsible for prolonging the life of cancerous rats eighty percent longer than those in the control group that were not inoculated. Dr. Burk was one of the foremost cancer specialists in the world. He was the recipient of the Gerhard Domagk Award for Cancer Research, the Hillebrand Award of the American Chemical Society, and the Commander Knighthood Of the Medical Order of Bethlehem (Rome) founded in 1459 by Pope Pius the Eleventh. He held a Ph.D. in biochemistry earned at the University of California. He was a Fellow of the National Research Council at the University of London, of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Biology, and also Harvard. He was senior chemist at the National Cancer Institute, which he helped establish, and in 1946 became Director of the Cytochemistry Section. He belonged to eleven scientific organizations, wrote three books relating to chemotherapy research in cancer, and was author or co-author of more than two-hundred scientific papers in the field of cell chemistry. He is a biochemist. If Dr. Burk says that Laetrile works, I believe him!

Let us look at one more study. For five years, between 1972 and 1977, Laetrile was meticulously tested at Sloan-Kettering under the direction of Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura. Dr. Sugiura was the senior laboratory researcher at Sloan-Kettering with over 60 years experience. He had earned the highest respect for his knowledge and integrity. He was the perfect person to conduct experiments since his quest for truth blocked out anything else. Dr. C. Chester Stock, the man in charge of Sloan-Kettering's laboratory-testing division wrote this about Dr. Sigiura, "Few, if any, names in cancer research are as widely known as Kanematsu Sugiura'sโ€ฆ Possibly the high regard in which his work is held is best characterized by a comment made to me by a visiting investigator in cancer research from Russia. He said, "When Dr. Sugiura publishes, we know we don't have to repeat the study, for we would obtain the same results he has reported."" (Ralph Moss, The Cancer Syndrome, New York: Grove Press, 1980 pg. 258)

The official report about Laetrile from Dr. Sigiura read: "The results clearly show that Amygdalin significantly inhibits the appearance of lung metastasis in mice bearing spontaneous mammary tumors and increases significantly the inhibition of the growth of the primary tumorsโ€ฆ Laetrile also seemed to prevent slightly the appearance of new tumorsโ€ฆ The improvement of health and appearance of the treated animals in comparison to controls is always a common observationโ€ฆ Dr. Sugiura has never observed complete regression of these tumors in all his cosmic experience with other chemotherapeautic agents." ("A Summary of the Effect of Amygdalin Upon Spontaneous Mammary Tumors in Mice," Sloan-Kettering report, June 13, 1973.)

Dr. Sugiura's report was cause for great alarm at Sloan-Kettering. Remember, cancer is over a billion dollars a year industry. This report would cause the house of cards to collapse. As would be expected then, many more experiments were conducted by others who were not as honest as Dr. Sugiura. At a press conference, Dr. Sugiura was asked suddenly by a reporter if he stuck to his report. Dr. Sugiura clearly and boldly stated, "I stick," even though Sloan-Kettering was trying to discredit everything that he did. To read about the many times that Sloan-Kettering tried to discredit their finest researcher, get the book, "World Without Cancer," by G. Edward Griffin.

Now, even though we have proof from the laboratories, let us look at what is being discovered in prominent physicians' studies:

(The following is taken from the book, "World Without Cancer", by G. Edward Griffin, published by American Media, Westlake Village, CA)

"As early as 1974, there was at least twenty-six published papers written by well-known physicians who had used Laetrile in the treatment of their own patients and who have concluded that Laetrile is both safe and effective in the treatment of cancer.

Dr. Hans Nieper, of West Germany, former Director of the Department of Medicine at the Silbersee Hospital in Hanover. He is a pioneer in the medical use of cobalt and is credited with developing the anti-cancer drug, cyclophosphamide. He is the originator of the concept of "electrolyte carriers" in the prevention of cardiac necrosis. He was formerly the head of the Aschaffenburg Hospital Laboratory for chemical circulatory research. He is listed in Who's Who in World Science and has been the Director of the German Society for Medical Tumor Treatment. He is one of the world's most famous and respected cancer specialists. During a visit to the U.S. in 1972, Dr. Nieper told news reporters, "After more than twenty years of such specialized work, I have found the nontoxic Nitrilosides-that is Laetrile-far superior to any other known cancer treatment or preventative. In my opinion, it is the only existing possibility for the ultimate control of cancer."

In Canada there is N.R. Bouziane, M.D., former Director of Research Laboratories at St. Jeanne d'Arc Hospital in Montreal and a member of the hospital's tumor board in charge of chemotherapy. He graduated magna cum laude in medicine from the University of Montreal. He also received a doctorate in science from the University of Montreal and St. Joseph's University, an affiliate of Oxford University in New Brunswick. He was a Fellow in chemistry and a Fellow in hematology, and certified in clinical bacteriology, hematology and biochemistry from the college. He also was Dean of the American Association of Bio?Analysts.
After the first series of tests with Laetrile shortly after it was introduced, Dr. Bouziane reported:

We always have a diagnosis based on histology [microscopic analysis of the tissue]. We have never undertaken a case without histological proof of cancer...

In our investigation, some terminal cases were so hopeless that they did not even receive what we consider the basic dose of thirty grams. Most cases, however, became ambulatory and some have in this short time resumed their normal activities on a maintenance dose. (Cancer News Journal, Jan./Apr. 1971, pg. 20)

In the Philippines there is Manuel Navarro, M.D., former Professor of Medicine and Surgery at the University of Santo Tomas in Manila; an Associate Member of the National Research Council of the Philippines; a Fellow of the Philippine College of Physicians, the Philippine Society of Endocrinology and Metabolism; and a member of the Philippine Medical Association, the Philippine Cancer Society, and many other medical groups. He has been recognized internationally as a cancer researcher and has over one?hundred major scientific papers to his credit, some of which have been read before the International Cancer Congress. In 1971 Dr. Navarro wrote:

I ... have specialized in oncology [the study of tumors] for the past eighteen years. For the same number of years I have been using Laetrile?amygdalin in the treatment of my cancer patients. During this eighteen year period I have treated a total of over five hundred patients with Laetrile?amygdalin by various routes of administration, including the oral and the I.V. The majority of my patients receiving Laetrile?amygdalin have been in a terminal state when treatment with this material commenced.
It is my carefully considered clinical judgment, as a practicing oncologist and researcher in this field, that I have obtained most significant and encouraging results with the use of Laetrile?amygdalin in the treatment of terminal cancer patients, and that these results are comparable or superior to the results I have obtained with the use of the more toxic standard cytotoxic agents. (Letter from Dr. Navarro to Mr. Andrew McNaughton, The McNaughton Foundation, dated January 8, 1971, published in the Cancer News Journal, Jan./April, 1971, pp. 19,20.)

In Mexico there is Ernesto Contreras, M.D., who, for over three decades, has operated the Good Samaritan Cancer Clinic (now called the Oasis Hospital) in Tijuana. He is one of Mexico's most distinguished medical figures. He received postgraduate training at Harvard's Children's Hospital in Boston. He has served as Professor of Histology and Pathology at the Mexican Army Medical School and as the chief pathologist at the Army Hospital in Mexico City
Dr. Contreras was introduced to Laetrile in 1963 by a terminal cancer patient from the United States who brought it to his attention and urged him to treat her with it. The woman recovered, and Dr. Contreras began extensive investigation of its properties and use. Since that time he has treated many thousands of cancer patients, most of whom are American citizens who have been denied the freedom to use Laetrile in their own country.
Dr. Contreras has summarized his experiences with vitamin therapy as follows:

The palliative action [improving the comfort and well?being of the patient] is in about 60% of the cases. Frequently, enough to be significant, I see arrest of the disease or even regression in some of the very advanced cases. (Cancer News Journal, Jan./April, 1971, pp. 20. We must bear in mind that these are terminal patients-people who have been given up as hopeless by orthodox medicine. Fifteen percent recovery in that group is a most impressive accomplishment.)

In Japan there is Shigeaki Sakai, a prominent physician in Tokyo. In a paper published in the October 1963 Asian Medical journal, Dr. Sakai reported:

Administered to cancer patients, Laetrile has proven to be quite free from any harmful side?effects, and I would say that no anticancer drug could make a cancerous patient improve faster than Laetrile. It goes without saying that Laetrile controls cancer and is quite effective wherever it is located.

In Italy there is Professor Etore Guidetti, M.D., of the University of Turin Medical School. Dr. Guidetti spoke before the Conference of the International Union Against Cancer held in Brazil in 1954 and revealed how his use of Laetrile in terminal cancer patients had caused the destruction of a wide variety of tumors including those of the uterus, cervix, rectum, and breast. "In some cases," he said, "one has been able to observe a group of fulminating and cauliflower?like neoplastic masses resolved very rapidly." He reported that, after giving Laetrile to patients with lung cancer, he had been "able to observe, with the aid of radiography, a regression of the neoplasm or the metastases."
After Guidetti's presentation, an American doctor rose in the audience and announced that Laetrile had been investigated in the United States and found to be worthless. Dr. Guidetti replied, "I do not care what was determined in the United States. I am merely reporting what I saw in my own clinic." (Cancer News Journal, Jan./April, 1971, p. 19)

In Belgium there is Professor Joseph H. Maisin, Sr., M.D., of the University of Louvain where he was Director of the Institute of Cancer. He also was President Emeritus of the International League Against Cancer which conducts the International Cancer Congress every four years.

And in the United States there are such respected names as Dr. Dean Burk of the National Cancer Institute; Dr. John A. Morrone of the Jersey City Medical Center; Dr. Ernst T. Krebs, Jr., who developed Laetrile; Dr. John A. Richardson, the courageous San Francisco physician who challenged the government's right to prevent Laetrile from being used in the United States (See John A. Richardson, M.D., and Patricia Griffin, R.N., Laetrile Case Histories; The Richardson Cancer Clinic Experience published by Westlake Village, CA: American Media, 1977); Dr. Philip E. Binzel, Jr., a physician in Washington Court House, Ohio, who has used Laetrile for over twenty years with outstanding success (Philip E. Binzel, M.D., Alive and Well: One Doctor's Experience with Nutrition in the Treatment of Cancer Patients, published by American Media, Westlake Village, CA, 1994); and many others from over twenty countries with equally impeccable credentials." (End of quote from World Without Cancer, by G. Edward Griffin).

In my opinion, these results are more credible than something that can be worked up in a laboratory. The proof of whether Laetrile works or not is undisputed by eyewitness accounts from these highly respected physicians who have had many years of seeing people recover from their cancer by using Laetrile therapy. Remember, laboratory experiments can be manipulated to produce any result that the researcher is looking for. Unscrupulous men have used these reports for their own gain and benefit, not for the cancer patients. Laetrile is a vitamin that cannot be patented. It is not worthy to used in cancer treatment since it is not making the conglomorate pharmaceutical companies, research centers, etc. any money. To them, the only solution is drugs, even though they know without any doubt that these drugs do not work. To prove it, let's take a look at what surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy really do to the cancer patient.

Surgery is the least harmful of the three. Surgery can be life-saving if there are intestinal blockages that must be relieved to prevent death of secondary complications. There is also the psychological advantage of visually removing the tumor and offering the temporary comfort of hope. However, the degree to which surgery is useful is the same degree to which the tumor is not malignant. The greater the proportion of cancer cells in the tumor, the less likely that surgery will help. The most malignant tumors are generally considered inoperable. There are also two to consider that cutting into the tumor, even for a biopsy, does. First, there is trauma to the area. This triggers the healing process, which in turn, brings more trophoblast cells (the start of cancer) into being as a by-product of that process. (See chapter IV of the book, "World Without Cancer", by G. Edward Griffin, for more information on the trophoblast thesis of cancer.) The second thing is that if not all the malignant tissue is removed, what remains may become encased in scar tissue from the surgery. Consequently, the cancer tends to become insulated from the action of the pancreatic enzymes which are essential for exposing trophoblast cells to the surveillant action of the white blood cells. There is also no solid evidence that surgery that patients who submit to surgery have any greater life expectancy, on the average, that those who do not. For more information regarding the many studies that have been done regarding surgery, see the book, "World Without Cancer", by G. Edward Griffin.
The rationale behind X-ray therapy is the same as with surgery. The objective is to remove the tumor, but to do so by burning it away rather than cutting it out. Here, also, it is primarily the non-cancer cell that is destroyed. The more malignant the tumor, the more resistant it is to radio therapy. If this were not so, then X-ray therapy would have a high degree of success-which, of course, it does not. It also increases the likelihood of cancer developing in other parts of the body. X-rays induce cancer because of at least two factors. First, they do physical damage to the body whichs triggers the production of trophoblast cells as part of the healing process. Second, they weaken or destroy the production of white blood cells which constitutes the immunological defense mechanism, the body's front-line defense against cancer. As with surgery, there is little or no solid evidence that radiation actually improves the patient's chances for survival. For more information regarding the many studies that have been done regarding radiation therapy, see the book, "World Without Cancer", by G. Edward Griffin.
We have now briefly viewed the miserable results obtained by orthodox surgery and radiation. However, the record of so-called anti-cancer drugs is even worse. The primary reason for this is that most of them currently in use are highly poisonous, not just to cancer but to the rest of the body as well. Generally, they are more deadly to healthy tissue than they are to the malignant cell. All substances can be toxic if taken in sufficient amounts. This is true of aspirin, sugar, Laetrile or even water. But, unlike those, the anti-cancer drugs are poisonous, not as a result of an overdose or as a side-effect, but as a primary effect. In other words, anti-cancerous drugs are deliberately poisonous. It is the desired effect. Now, these chemicals are selected because they are capable of differentiating between types of cells and, consequently, of poisoning some types more than others. But don't jump to the conclusion that they differentiate between cancer and non-cancer cells, killing only the cancer cells, because they do not.
The cellular poisons used in orthodox cancer therapy today cannot distinguish between cancer and non-cancer cells. They act instead to differentiate between cells that are fast-growing and those that are slow-growing or not growing at all. Cells that are actively dividing are the targets. Consequently, they kill, not only the cancer cells that are dividing, but also a multitude of normal cells all over the body that also are caught in the act of dividing. In the case of a cancer that is dividing at the same rate or even slower than normal cells, there isn't even a theoretical chance of success in killing the cancer cells before the poison kills the patient. Poisoning the system is the objective of these drugs. The toxins catch the blood cells in the act of dividing and cause blood poisoning. The gastrointestinal systsem is thrown into convulsion causing nausea, diarrhea, loss of appetite, cramps, and progressive weakness. Hair cells are fast growing, so the hair falls our during treatment. Reproductive organs are affected causing sterility. The brain becomes fatigued. Eyesight and hearing are impaired. Every conceivable function is disrupted with such agony for the patient that many of them elect to die of the cancer rather than to continue treatment. I have already said elsewhere on this page that the personnel who administer these drugs to cancer patients take great precautions to be sure they themselves are not exposed to them. Because these drugs are so dangerous, the Chemotherapy Handbook lists sixteen OSHA safety procedures for medical personnel who work around these drugs. The procedure for disposing needles and other equipment used with these drugs is regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency under the category of "hazardous waste". Yet, these same substances are injected directly into the bloodstream of hapless cancer patients supposedly to cure their cancer! A report from the Southern Research Institute, dated April 13, 1972, based upon research conducted for the National Cancer Institute, indicated that most of the accepted drugs in the American Cancer Society's "proven cures" category produced cancer in laboratory animals that previously had been healthy! Can you believe it? These drugs are carcinogenic! How can poison and hazardous waste products cure anyone of anything?!!!! So why do doctors use chemotherapy if it is toxic, an immunosuppressant, carcinogenic, and futile? The answer is that they don't know what else to do. Doctors do not like to tell any patient that there is no hope. In his own mind he knows there is none, but he also knows that the patient does not want to hear that and will seek another physician who will continue some kind of treatment, no matter how useless or fatal it may be, so the doctor will continue to treat the patient himself. In his book The Wayward Cell, Cancer, Dr. Victor Richards made it clear that chemotherapy is used primarily just to keep the patient returning for treatment and to build his morale while he dies. But there is more! He said, "Nevertheless, chemotherapy serves an extremely valuable role in keeping patients oriented toward proper medical therapy, and prevents the feeling of being abandoned by the physician in patients with late and hopeless cancer. Judicious employment and screening of potentially useful drugs may also prevent the spread of cancer quackery." (Victor Richards, The Wayward Cell, Cancer; Its Origins, Nature, and Treatment; Berkeley: The University of California Press, 1972, pp. 215-16)
Heaven forbid that anyone should forsake the nauseating, pain-racking, cancer-spreading, admittedly ineffective "proven cures" for such "quackery" as Laetrile! Here we have revealed, the true goal of much of the so-called "educational" programs of orthodox medicine-psychologically to condition people to not try any other forms of therapy.
So let's sum up the four different options of dealing with cancer:

SURGERY: Least harmful. Sometimes a life-saving, stop-gap measure. No evidence that patients who receive radical or extensive surgical options live any longer than those who receive the most conservative options, or, for that matter, those who receive none at all. Believed to increase the likelihood of disseminating cancer to other locations. When dealing with internal tumors affecting reproductive or vital organs, the statistical rate of long-term survival is, on the average, 10-15%. After metastasis, the statistical chances for long-term survival are close to zero.

RADIOLOGY: Very harmful in many ways. Spreads the cancer and weakens the patient's resistance to other diseases. Serious and painful side-effects, including heart failure. No evidence that treated patients live any longer, on the average, than those not treated. Statistical rate of long-term survival after metastasis is close to zero.

CHEMOTHERAPY: Also spreads the cancer through weakening of immunological defense mechanism plus general toxicity. Leaves patient susceptible to other diseases and infections, often leading to death from these causes. Extremely serious side-effects. No evidence that treated patients live any longer, on the average, than untreated patients. Statistical rate of long-term survival after metastasis is close to zero.

VITAMIN THERAPY: Non-toxic. Side effects include increased appetite, weight gain, lowered blood pressure, increased hemoglobin and red-blood cell count. Eliminates or sharply reduces pain without narcotics. Builds up body's resistance to other diseases. Is a natural substance found in foods and is compatible with human biological experience. Destroys cancer cells while nourishing non-cancer cells. Considering that most patients begin vitamin therapy only after they have been cut, burned, or poisoned by orthodox treatments and have been told that there no longer is any hope, the numbe rof patients who have been brought back to normal health on a long-term survival basis (15%) is most encouraging. For those who turn to vitamin therapy first, the long-term survival rate is greater than 80%!




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No, I think what keeps us in the dark ages is this notion that everything has to be conducted in a "controlled laboratory setting" with "double-blind placebos" and published in a "peer-reviewed journal" for it to be considered valid. And that anything outside of that is invalid. Laboratory results can easily be and have been manipulated to produce the desired results. They mean nothing.



And if that is your position on the matter, thats fine. Personally, I think that any therapy being touted as a "cure" should work. I believe it should work consistently rather than the "one in a million shot" (e.g. above "chance levels"). Engaging in proper scientific inquiry (through placebo control, blinding etc.) helps ensure that these things happen.

If this is the case, right next to the Vitamin B17 stand, I will sell "magic water" and then tell people: "Water flushes toxins from your system, thus, drinking my water will cure all your cancers".

And this makes sense doesn't it? Next to that I'll offer information about how the sun circles the earth, which, if you've looked in the sky is obviously clear.

And it is rather difficult to "manipulate results" when you're talking about people dying from cancer.

The world of science is very flat. There are millions of people doing experiments all over the world. Scientists in other countries are completely free of american governmental influence and the evilness of "american pharma". There isn't a scientist (or country) out there who wouldn't love to publish and discover the "cure for cancer".

If they lied, or manipulated it, the results would not be repeatable, and the lie would be uncovered. Reproducibility is a key feature of the scientific process.

So what we're left with is tinfoil hats and the ever so random claim of "Well I knew this guy once....and he was cured so it MUST work". Which, while it may convince you, would need to be substantiated to gain my confidence.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Clinics aren't in the business of curing ANYTHING because they don't make money off cures. Fact. They make money off of continual treatment and expensive medications. Fact.




The Mayo Clinic is a non-profit organization. :rolleyes:

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Cancer is one of the biggest money making industries in the world today. If you all of a sudden had a cure for cancer.. A LOT of people would be out of jobs. It would most definitely NOT be in their best interest to go touting cures.



Who would be out of a job? I assure you, whoever discovers a cure for cancer is going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. This is just common sense. If what you say is true, why did they decide to cure polio?

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Laetrile, (aka "vit B17") is undoubtly a HIGHLY controversial medication. The science is simply not there to support its use. That doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't work, but the best kind of evidence does not support its use. The most well designed methodologies for assessing this drug's value have not shown it to be effective. Therefore, it should be regarded with a high degree of skepticism.

Maybe you don't trust the "scientific (or medical) establishment" or even the scientific process. If that is the case, I would say, you probably don't understand science very well and you should take some courses/do some more reading. Science provides our society with the best means of gaining and critically evaluating empirical knowledge. Far too many people believe in various unproven / placebo / quack treatments because of their emotional distrust of the scientific community/processes.

As far as 'holistic approaches' go, I don't think anyone in the medical community would have anything negative to say about simply improving your life style and lowering your stress levels. In fact I'm certain that almost all doctors would advocate such behaviours. But that doesn't mean there is no place for chemical treatments - simply 'living healthy' is often not enough. Of course, any chemical treatment that a doctor might advocate to his/her patients needs to be supported by proper scientific/clinical evidence. For a doctor to do otherwise would be completely irresponsible.


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Who would be out of a job? I assure you, whoever discovers a cure for cancer is going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. This is just common sense. If what you say is true, why did they decide to cure polio?



Well for starters, all of the cancer research industries.. along with all the pharmacueticals that comes with it. And that's a lot..

And no, I do not trust the "scientific/medical establishment". Any industry or establishment that is based on financial gain over human well-being or the propagation of misinformation is criminal in my book. Of course this isn't to say I don't agree with 'science' itself, or that there aren't good 'scientists'. Just that I do not agree with the corrupted machine that runs it and it's intentions.

I base my reality on a love for all of Creation and the process of spiritual logic.
As far as 'chemical treatments' go.. I don't think you should be treating a chemical problem with a chemical solution. We do things completely backwards, and we don't usually look to find the root of the problem. I mean the REAL root of the problem, and not how to systematically eliminate and/or suppress the symptoms and after-effects of the problem.. thus essentially profiting on the proliferation and prolonging of disease and human suffering.

The real criminals in this case would be the political/scientific/bigpharma/etc establishment. Those who hide or distort The Truth and attempt to control and direct and especially profit from the minds and lives of the masses.

Sure, almost anyone can grow their own food, and eat healthy if they so desire. But for most people, you have to go well out of your way to do such a thing, and the system is designed that way. The food we eat, plays such a massive role on everything about our lives. I don't know about where you live, but here.. the easiest food to get is usually processed, loaded with preservatives and artificial flavors, high in saturated fats, drowned in processed sugars.. and just otherwise completely unhealthy for any human and virtually devoid of any sort of nutritional value. The average american diet is one of the most disgusting things imagineable, and people wonder why we have such high disease and cancer rates and are the fattest nation in the world. And we are a very big influence on other nations. We push our influence.

Bottom line is this. Yeah, in the past 100 years we have made a lot of progress scientifically, and medically.. no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean we are out of the dark ages just yet. Just because we have a few new toys and think we know a thing or two more about ourselves and the universe around us.. we still have a long way to go before we can even come close to fully understanding it.

Right now I think the biggest problem in the world is the production of weapons and chemicals that kill life. Human conflict and the proliferation of war profiteering. The rapid destruction of our world's resources.. and just the fucked up way in general our society is run by a bunch of 'charlatans' who put profit and power over human or any life.

Genocide and global warming.. nuclear weapons.. Wars on Drugs and against other races of Humans.. a "class" system that still exists to this day.. that dates back hundreds of years, unhealthy cancerous food stocked in almost every single grocery store, and the general manipulation of free will.

And we think we're the Masters of the Universe with our 'scientific method'...
We still have a long way to go.

How about the scientific method figure out a way to quit raping the planet and each other hrm?
When it supports that, I will trust it again.

All this money spent on cancer research, weapons of death.. these billions and billions and billions of dollars.. that perpetuate the problem.. could be much better allocated to the area of FEEDING AND EDUCATING PEOPLE.

I believe that all humans have the right to exist peacefully. And that we are all a family and should take care of each other. Not the other way around.


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You are making way too many sweeping generalizations. You can't simply condemn the entire scientific community because humanity has done some stupid things with science and technology. Most people in the scientific community are highly critical of nuclear weapons, the modern American lifestyle, polluting industries etc.

Nor can you simply say that because there is a profit motive for some people in the medical community, that there is an overarching medical conspiracy that controls the actions of government, pharmaceutical companies, clinicians, researchers, universities etc.

The question at hand is "does laetrile work?". The science does not support the conclusion that it does. There is no reason to believe that the researchers who did the science were corrupted by some far-reaching conspiracy. I'm sure most cancer researchers would be thrilled to learn of a cure. Not everyone is completely cutthroat and self-interested. You're just being a paranoid hippy :tongue:.


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