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Invisibledogma
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10 gal.
    #663261 - 06/04/02 09:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hi guys

im gonna be using a 10 gal aquarium to begin with...pretty shure ill start out with the PF style cakes on perlite, but the more i rerad on casing, the more i like it....it reminds me of a scrog grow for MJ...

how many cakes do you all recomend for this size terarium? im guessing 6 is a good #...if i case the whole tank with my 1 inch of perlite,how many cakes is it gonna take to fully cover the perlite so my substrate is 2 inches deep? then ill add an inch or so of my verm...im guessing it takes more cakes when casing than just setting cakes on the perlite....

however since you cruble your cakes into the bottom i supose the substrate is then thinner than a whole cake strait from an 8oz jar...

ive been lurking around reading a lot for the past couple of months,and im not a newebie who is too good to do his own reaearch,but a little clarity on this would help a lot when i go to filling jars and getting them ready...if 8 jars will be plenty of substrate,then i can inoculate 10 or 12 just to be shure i enough colonized substrate for a good case..

thanks

dogma


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Re: 10 gal. [Re: dogma]
    #663275 - 06/04/02 09:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)



I think you're headed for disaster. That's what I think.

The problem here is that you are freestyling your own method on your first-time out. The config you are describing sounds like nothing in any of the teks hosted on this site. I think what you've done is read about a lot of different techniques and grabbed pieces from here and there and combined them. Don't do that. Follow one tek to a T. If you are going to fill the bottom of an acquarium with perlite, then that's going to be great for creating a lot of humidity in there. But you don't want to crumble your cakes all over that. You can either case them in containers (check the 50/50 casing tek) and set them on top of the perlite, or put your cakes whole on top of the jar lids on the perlite. The perlite is for whicking the h20 and making it evaporate to keep humidity high in the terrarium...

PM me if you have additional questions on this topic.

di11rod



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Re: 10 gal. [Re: di11rod]
    #663295 - 06/04/02 09:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hi cum gun

first off,i know ill have to have my substrate in say a baking pan or what not...i imagine ill use 2 and split the terarium in half...ill sit these on top of my perlite...i have that step in my head...dont know why i just passed over it in my post...
i want as little wasted space in the terarium as posible though...maybe an inch gap between my trays...just enough room for the humidity and gasses to pass between and up...figuring the needed cakes for the whole thing will give me plenty of substrate...

as far as experementing,thats what i do...im not afraid of failure...i havent realy mixed any teks together as of yet, although i certainly plan to before all this is over...

ill do PF style inoculation on the BRF and then case acordingly....all i need to know is HOW MANY CAKES FOR A 10 GAL AQUARIUM....

no offense but i asked this same Q as how many cakes per sq ft.....i got the answer at least an inch deep...well i know this... i need to know how many cakes ill be using...i dont want to inoculate 12 if i only need 6 ....

thanks sum more

dogma



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whew! [Re: dogma]
    #663320 - 06/04/02 10:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

dogma,

gladto hear you're going to put pans between the substrate and the perlite. THis should increase your chances for success considerably.

You're going to have a lot of humidity with that much perlite and casing in the same container. You might consider reducing the amount of perlite because you're going to have like 98% humidity when you really want around 85% for the fruiting stage. If you were doing strate PF cake tek, then 98% would be fine.

I don't think anyone is going to be able to give you the number of half-pint jars necessary to case a 2-inch substrate in a 10-gal acquarium. The key part missing from this question is the dimensions of a 10 gal acquarium. If you really need to be specific and have this number prior to innoculation, here's how you can do it...

find the taget volume of the substrate you want.. 2 inches deep by whatever the lenght and width of the containers is. Multiply those three numbers.

Then measure your jar's radius, multiply by 2 and then also the value of pi and the heigth of the jar. Divide the target volume by the volume of one jar. This will tell you how many jars you need. Keep in mind that after crumbling, there will be a lot of air gaps in there, so your substrate will occupy more volume than the volume it did while in the jars.

I hope I am not actually answering a homework assignment for some kid.

di11rod


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