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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Benzine]
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Benzine said:
I do not dare take this shit for a while. My friend thinks he can handle it now. I tried to talk him out of it but he thinks he can do it.



No one can handle it, and no one is EVER prepared for it. Ive done it multiple times, and still I am never prepared for what Ill see next time, although I have a more fundamental understanding of the drug itself and its power. You cant even begin to understand DMT before using it...there is nothing in your brain to relate the experience too (which is probably why its so easy to forget if you dont get it all out on paper or too someone right when you come back)

Put it one way, no one can handle DMT....DMT handles you

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: dedjam]
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gopenguins said:
Benzine said:
I do not dare take this shit for a while. My friend thinks he can handle it now. I tried to talk him out of it but he thinks he can do it.



No one can handle it, and no one is EVER prepared for it. Ive done it multiple times, and still I am never prepared for what Ill see next time, although I have a more fundamental understanding of the drug itself and its power. You cant even begin to understand DMT before using it...there is nothing in your brain to relate the experience too (which is probably why its so easy to forget if you dont get it all out on paper or too someone right when you come back)
Put it one way, no one can handle DMT....DMT handles you



Haha, I like that quote.

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Benzine]
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Well personally, I can't wait.  This sounds like exactly what I've been looking for in my psychedelic interests.  I'm ready for my world to be ripped apart. 
I haven't tripped as much as most of you here have, I'll admit.  Probably 10-12 times in all.  But if I'm not going to be prepared either way, what sense does it make to wait any longer?  I'll be getting my hands on some MHRB pronto.  I think I'm ready as I'll ever be.

So have you done any since?  I'm sure you've thought about it :smirk:

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Blend]
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I know people who have tripped in the 10-12 times range and tried DMT. They were blown away, but wanted to do it again. Same as anyone with a fair bit of experience I guess.

I don't think there's a minimum trip count for anyone. But if you've never had a terrifying trip that tore you from the grips of reality, you might not want to dive in yet.


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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Koala Koolio]
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What makes you feel this way? Do you think the masses will never be ready to be enlightened? Isn't the idea of trying to suppress DMT to only those with strong psychedelic backgrounds sort of elitist?

To me this is the goal of the human experience. For everyone to be enlightened and to be able to live in perfect harmony. Any tools we can use to achieve this goal are of great importance to all, not just a few. With the right preparation and guidance, isn't it possible for anyone to be blessed with the DMT experience?



That's not whats being said, no-one said it should be suppressed. I think the general consensus is that DMT is no toy and people with little experience in the psychedelic field generally don't cope nearly as well with the DMT experience as people with a little more knowledge. You won't completely understand until you've tried it. But I do think that given to the wrong person at the wrong time DMT could possible unhinge them, you've got to hold on while everything you understand and rely on as sane, normal reality is crumpled up and pulled apart before you. Possibly with the right preparation but the truth is, you can't really prepare yourself. Even now when I take off it still scares the shit out of me, a wider field of experience with psychedelics is merely acting as a buffer in this instance, ensuring that the brain doesn't get so much of a shock. No elitism intended, I assure you. I believe everyone should experience this once, but I don't believe everyone is ready to deal with DMT's fundamental principles and it's best to explore other psychedelics to at least get a feel for those first. As has already been mentioned: "In pandimensional hyperspace DMT experiences you" :grin:

In the mean time i've had one or two mis-fires (mainly problems with experimenting with different doses and pipes) but hopefully this weekend i'll be visiting those wonderful planes of being.

And Benzine: If your friend is boasting of how he is ready then it seems he may have a cocky attitude towards DMT, it won't show him any mercy. In fact it'll shoot him down and it'll hurt more. Be humble :laugh: It's certainly a humbling experience and at the least it'll put him in his place.


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"There are only two states of being: Too much and not enough"

Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Blend]
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deadendeavor said:
So have you done any since?  I'm sure you've thought about it :smirk:



Ya know, after the initial thrill, I probably did it a few more times in the next few days. Now maybe ill grab my little container of DMT every few months to see whats I can learn. Its really not an experience I choose to do over and over again. I've seen people abuse DMT (and my jaw dropped as I did), but those people also never got the benefits I would get, and it seemed as much as they would smoke they would never actually breakthough (think it was a mindset thing)

One good extraction really gives you enough DMT for a long long time. I get more joy out of showing other people "the light" so to speak, than I do from the actual substance.

I know "my protector" entity, and I know "the watcher" entities. These are beings that I see/meet with regularly in breakthrough situations. We have mutual knowledge of each other and "my protector" is always waiting on me.... really strange.

Stranger yet is the last trip I had on DMT. I dont know if I have given a report here or not, but it really stands out to me vividly. Ill try to do my best to convey what happened, but its early and my thoughts are scrambled...

Setting: Warm leather counch (I always do dmt on this couch, it brings me comfort for some reason). It was a saturday morning. My wife was still downstairs in bed.

I woke up that morning and kinda just wanted to smoke a bowl of green. Well I get upstairs and I remember that the previous night I had let some friends try my DMT and we didnt clean out my pipe. There wasn't enough in there for what I consider a breakthrough dose, and my motto is the typical "if you are gonna go, go all out." So, I grabbed some more dmt and packed the bowl. I cant tell you doseage because I dont measure doseage...I pack a bowl full and hit it till I can't anymore. Well I grabbed my lighter and hit the bowl....one hit, release....two hits, release (at this point things are getting shakey, its exactly like blastoff, like an extreme wind is blowing this reality away, I can hear the wind too...very loud yet not scary...this is all typical)...three hits ( by this time the open eye visuals are so intense I cant tell if my eyes are even still open, the wind is still rushing, I feel disconnected from my body)...four hits...

  This is one of the few times I dropped the pipe. I rarely do DMT without my wife there, so its usually not something I think about. Not really a big deal anyways...especially not at the time. After the fourth hit the rushing sound stopped and I am greeted by the same carnival type music (not really carnival, but i dont know how else to explain the music though) as I usually am as I travel through different realities. Then the breakthrough. I look around and there is nothing...nothing exists. Then I see my "protector" once again, and "the watchers". My protector wanted to show me something, but I hesitated...probably out of fear. Next thing I see is the watchers laughing...at me. I didnt understand, and I somewhat freaked.

Instantly I am sitting back on my couch. "That was quick" I thought to myself and started to get up. I noticed the the usual "5 grams of mushroom visuals" that accompany a DMT comedown weren't there. "odd". I walk to the top of my steps where I am instantly knocked to my knees by a force I couldnt see. At the botton of the steps was my "protector", in my own home, in MY reality. Behind my protector where the watchers, but it was strange. I could see them all, they were apart of this reality, but they were not in the typical (X,Y,Z) dimensions we see objects in. With the watchers still laughing, my protector spoke to me. Now, speaking with DMT entities, atleast for me, as not an audio communication but rather completely telepathic. My protector spoke that I had gone to far and I had entered a place it did not believe I was ready for...as soon as I heard that I was filled with the deepest depression. My protector continued telling me I was welcome to come back, but I needed to better prepare myself before I did. At that, the depression left, the "5 grams of mushroom visuals" picked up...and my protector and the watchers were gone.

I sat there, probably 30 minutes in complete shock. I am pretty sure tears flowed as I didnt understand anything that just happened, and I must have said "what the fuck" about a million times. I've heard and read tons of stories about meeting entities in thier world, id never heard of the entities comming here. I eventually woke up my wife and shared my thoughts with her. She helped my talk through alot of the trip and get it out so I remembered it (we learned quick that if you just talk out loud about what happens then you can remember it later...its an experience our brains cant relate to, and thus cant really store properly...if we tell the story of what happened we can remember it as a story and its stored better in our brains...atleast thats my theory if it makes any sense)

I haven't gone back to the DMT world. My protector said I would know when the time was right to come back. I don't believe that time has come yet.

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: dedjam]
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oh my GOD i have to do this!! is it bad to be immensely excited?

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Blend]
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deadendeavor said:
oh my GOD i have to do this!!  is it bad to be immensely excited?



LOL I think I was dancing the whole time I was working on the extraction, and then when the time came I had to calm myself down. It is something that is very exciting. Its an experience most humans wont get the chance to go through....there is no reason to be anything but excited :smile:

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: Blend]
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If you weren't excited then something would be very wrong with you, very wrong. I love this stuff! It definately feels more like a tool than a drug. Just seems weird that something of this calibre is one of our brains own native chemicals. Heh, yeah. I couldn't keep the grin off of my face during the extraction process.


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"There are only two states of being: Too much and not enough"

Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: j3ckyl]
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absolutely fascinating , im glad to hear about your breakthrough experience. God speed friend share with others and we all win in the end ! :thumbup::mushroom2::grin:


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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: fourstringbass]
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fourstringbass said:
Somebody needs to start mass producing this and selling it around colleges. There is plenty of money to be made and plenty of people who would like to experience it. Though if this where to happen it would more then likely turn up around high schools and back alleys. In a perfect world, Street drugs would have an age limit. DMT is something to be taken only by those who are mature enough to handle it.



Terrible idea. Not only would this bring MUCH unwanted attention to the substance, its terrible Karma to be making money off of it.

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Re: DMT Breakthrough!!! [Re: drizzle7788]
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You guys are commenting ona post from 2007???!!!

I have to agree, though...mass production was (and is) a terrible idea.

N.B.


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