Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Psychedelic Experience
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
DMT Breakthrough
    #5971734 -

Is it possible to smoke a sufficient amount of DMT and not breakthrough (like with salvia)? Or is it just not enough being smoked?


--------------------
sometimes you can get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: tocuhe]
    #5971838 -

Well you should hallucinate some very complex geometrc patterns but if you really want to have a trip is to ignore the colors and patterns but be aware of them and you will go through them to the dmtverse. if your getting no effects what so ever then your probably not smoking enough or smoking it properly. Smoke it like salvia( big tokes and hold in for a good 20 to 30 seconds) and freebase it. Those are both really important


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5972237 -

yes its possible. but "breakthrough" is realy subjective. what is breakthrough anyway?

if you werent already, close your eyes just after you exhale that third or 4th hit. it tends to be much more immersive with your eyes closed.

weigh your dose. not because there is any danger of overdose, but because its very easy to overestimate how much you are smoking and have a weak trip. better to load up too much and not finish it all than to load up too little and have a weak trip.

you dont have to freebase it. alot of people have better and more consistent results smoking it in a pipe between thin layers of parsely or weed.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: tocuhe]
    #5972250 -

Have you ever experienced DMT before? I ask because 1 in 20 people cannot experience the effects of DMT. coincidentally 1 in 20 people don't dream as well. I have no idea if they are the same 5% but id be willing to say they are seeing as DMT plays a part in dreaming. The feeling of DMT is very intense and unmistakable, if you are smoking it and not feeling anything it is most likely due to this phenomenon. If you weren't smoking enough you would likely still feel pretty intense effects even if you didn't "break through"


--------------------
Row, row, row your boat,
Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Life is but a dream.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: d4a2n0k]
    #5972366 -

d4a2n0k said:
coincidentally 1 in 20 people don't dream as well.


i have actually done a lot of research into dreaming, being a big fan of lucid dreaming, and everyone dreams. I use to think i didnt dream at all...and i went to this site www.ld4all.com and found some dream recall exercises, and now dream consistently everynight. It wasnt that i didnt, i jus didnt remember them.


--------------------


-=Be a part of the movement=-
http://www.norml.org/
-=Support the free spore rings=-
Canada www.fsrcanada.com
Europe http://www.fsre.nl/

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: unseenat17]
    #5972438 -

"yes its possible. but "breakthrough" is realy subjective. what is breakthrough anyway?"

In my experience, there is a big fat line between breaking through and not breaking through. There's no way to mistake one for the other, after having "broken through". A non breakthrough is great fun too. Extremely euphoric (it has been for me at least), very shifty textures and nice tunnels/patterns with eyes closed. Still an ability to communicate with those around you, and attempt to explain how awesome you feel. It's like an instant strong acid/mushroom peak.

An example of a breakthrough on the other hand, consists of the world stretching out and warping as you take your second to last hit, and on your final one, there is no question as to whether or not you can take one more hit, it's simply not even a thought in your head. There's sometimes the sound of a strong wind, or a buzzing sound that gets louder. Everything before you becomes unrecognizable, maybe you can barely tell that there are figures beside you (your friends) but they are contorted and too hazy to really make out. You find communication to be impossible, and then you feel yourself shoot upwards, and out.

You spin through some tunnels made up of the most colorful waves you've ever seen. No visuals have ever been like this before. Even if they were close to this amazing, you never *felt* them, you were never part of their vibrations in this way, and they never felt so familiar... as if you've experienced this every night you went to sleep. Or perhaps even during the day, behind everything else? The idea of self, objects, people, feelings, even thoughts are gone, replaced with confusion, and a deja vous-like feeling of familiarity, and a humbleness as you become part of your surroundings.

The waves begin to form into the shapes of two faces, rippling in and out of this enormous dome you've found yourself in, painted with archaic looking symbols. A hand forms underneath one of the faces (who are looking directly into you) and a finger forms... reaches out to you, and just as it touches underneath your view point (do you have a body?) you feel an enormous buzz go through you, shaking the world... as if you were a giant pager or cell phone, or whatever. This is enough to force you to open your eyes.

The previous world disintegrates and you find yourself lying on the floor of an apartment, and you recognize it as somewhere you recently were. Staring at the ceiling, you see the popcorn-like texture forming 7's and H's everywhere. Then the word ceiling pops in your head, and you analyze it, and remember what an object is, what the world is, and soon... what you are. You sit up, see your friends grinning, yourself breathing fast, and everything swirling as if you're on mushrooms. Though, you come down in about 1 minute, which would be an hour and a half on mushrooms. Then... you wonder how long you have to wait until you can do this again, and you remember: Only 30 minutes. :smile:

Well, at least those are my tales of the differences between a breakthrough and nonbreakthrough. Can't imagine mistaking one for the other. :smile: While I've had weaker breakthroughs, there's still a bold line between the two.

A non breakthrough just doesn't seem worth using spice on, for me, unless you have tons of it. Even then... it's like, with a breakthrough, I wouldn't usually want it to last more than 5 minutes, 10 max.  But with a non breakthrough, *that* would be an amazing thing to feel all day long, but it's only 3-5 minutes, so why not eat some acid/mushrooms/other, which you can feel all day, and save your DMT for breakthrough attempts.


--------------------
You're not like the others. You like the same things I do. Wax paper, boiled football leather... dog breath. We're not hitch-hiking anymore, we're riding!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5972467 -

"Even if they were close to this amazing, you never *felt* them, you were never part of their vibrations in this way, and they never felt so familiar... as if you've experienced this every night you went to sleep. Or perhaps even during the day, behind everything else? The idea of self, objects, people, feelings, even thoughts are gone, replaced with confusion, and a deja vous-like feeling of familiarity, and a humbleness as you become part of your surroundings. "

I know exactly what you mean and the familiarity of the whole thing is one of the most interesting things about a good DMT trip.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5972892 -

I havent been smoking enough, I know that for sure. But I am just worried about wasting it, it seems the amount a hold then only becomes a few hits. But if I am freebasing it (using a meth pipe) and holding the flame right under the bubble, I shouldnt be wasting of it , am I?


--------------------
sometimes you can get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6188237 -

Koala Koolio said:
"yes its possible. but "breakthrough" is realy subjective. what is breakthrough anyway?"

In my experience, there is a big fat line between breaking through and not breaking through. There's no way to mistake one for the other, after having "broken through".


Koala, which method of smoking have you found produces breakthroughs the easiest, freebase-style or regular pipe with ash/parsley/weed?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: entheogen23]
    #6191644 -

Some people are hard heads and some people just dont hold it in long enough.


--------------------
Am I breathing up or down? says the speaking fictional character.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: tocuhe]
    #25584162 -

It's basically hard to say. You can get "shut out", even off a huge dose - if you inhaled it right. I don't think anyone got shut out in the Strassman study because the RoA could have just been efficient. And there is a tolerance. So, it could be intent or motivation for doing so. You might know if it's a breakthrough or not, if you've had one.
The catch with DMT is that it was supposed to be like a challenge, impossible to decipher or even remember - like a dream. Hence, that's why they think it might be the brain chemical responsible for dreams (it might not be though). Szara said really high doses were of limited use because the subject couldn't even remember what had happened, let alone explain it all, really. So it might be "God", or just something hella tight. High doses of LSD can show you the essence of it, or it itself... Mushrooms might be similar. Psilocybin is just a DMT trip spread out over the according dose's duration.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: DMT Breakthrough [Re: Blabble40]
    #25593016 -

It's possible to fight the trip/get interrupted and then end with something really nasty like a hyperslap. But most times, if you are relaxed and have no previous tolerance to psychedelics - microdosing counts too - you should be able to break through. The key is letting go of everything with DMT. If you accept your death if you feel like dying, it get's way better once come through the other side and you realize you're only tripping. :mushroom2:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Psychedelic Experience
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* DMT Breakthrough!!!
( 1 2 3 all )		 j3ckyl 14,550 51 08/09/09 05:41 PM
by Nature Boy
* LSD+ Nitrous breakthrough similar to DMT breakthrough??? RobMarley420 6,282 15 06/14/11 11:29 AM
by bholzer
* need advice on DMT breakthrough
( 1 2 all )		 Sophistic Radiance 5,297 25 02/25/08 05:54 PM
by Zinglons Acolyte
* First DMT breakthrough UberDeepName 1,053 2 03/16/08 07:32 PM
by PilzeEssen
* DMT breakthrough....just now....first timer....by myself
( 1 2 all )		 WWorker 4,103 21 12/05/07 11:18 PM
by Feanor
* Holy shit! First time DMT breakthrough - just now! (SWIM of course) *DELETED* begreen0 2,150 6 09/27/08 09:38 AM
by piracetam
* Memorizing DMT breakthrough Individual 596 1 07/31/08 07:42 AM
by Tsukin
* breakthrough without elves
( 1 2 all )		 Sophistic Radiance 3,761 22 03/18/08 03:36 PM
by andrewss

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Asante, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
4,670 topic views. 1 members, 376 guests and 49 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.025 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 16 queries.