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What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack?
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I know they're 2 different things, but whenever I hear someone describe one it sort of sounds like what happens to me every now and then.

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Newbie]
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Different people have different types of attack.

Usually for me it was a sudden negative change in the way i was thinking, coupled with a bodily feeling.
It feels just like a rush of chemicals, that sets your heart going and then your in an attack.

If you try not to react/panic about the weird sensations and mental state the attack only lasts afew minutes.
If you panic it gets worse and lasts about 15.
Some people get bursts of attacks that can come on and off over the space of like 2 hours before subsiding properly.

I think the sudden rush of chemicals happens when your body basically panics for no reason.
It's like the 'fight or flight' response only there's nothing there to respond to.
If you panic when this happens your body keeps on releasing chemicals, prolonging the attack.

The more severe attacks are alot like a bad acid trip.
My first attacks were nasty because i didn't know how to control them.
They had all the symptoms i already mentioned,
plus racing thoughts,
Feeling like you've gone insane,
Tunnel vision,
Feeling like your free falling,
Weird bodily sensations withing the chest,
and feeling like you have to stand up, i think that's a natural reaction to try and take your mind off what's going on.
After a serious one i'd be left shaking. With more weird sensations, which was possibly a side effect from all the chemicals my body had been pumping out.

Panic attacks are usually triggered by something, if you have this type it's alot harder to sort them out. If there are deeper issues counseling might be needed.
Others are totally random, and can come on for no reason at all. IMO they're easier to deal with, ive practically fixed mine.

Sometimes i get little ones but i'm used to it and they don't bother me anymore,, :cool:.

The big ones are not a nice thing to have tho !.

Edited by Mike_yy (09/20/06 08:16 PM)

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Mike_yy]
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Oh yeah.
I think i created mine by experimenting with new highs.
I was having little ones for weeks before i had a full blown attack, and i never even realized.

I should have known because i was getting the same weird feelings at the come up off each thing i tried.
I was only trying very low doses and i always thought it was just the chemicals effect, but now i realize i was having small attacks everytime i dosed anything i was unsure of.
( obviously i knew what i was taking wasn't going to kill me but it was still all new to me ).

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Newbie]
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I've hadone so bad I thought my brain was going to pop and I had a massive body rush. It was hell.


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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: barfightlard]
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I've had one notable attack and it was definatly due in part to marijuana. I got really shakey, heart started beating very fast, I had all kinds of absolute craziness running through my mind accompanied by horrible hallucinations when I'd close my eyes, chest felt really tight and it was difficult to breath. Basically I was really stoned (I don't partake with weed often at all...and never since this happened) and my ex started saying some crazy things that made her sound like a completly different person than who I thought I knew and it really wigged me out.

No fun man. Avoid.


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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Grok]
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Yeah man, i couldn't smoke weed for three months after my big attack.
I was very stoned when it happened.

Ive had closed eye hallucinations too,, they're not the nice kind either.

I still smoke now, eventually everything leveled out back to normal for me ( just about,, :smile: ).

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Newbie]
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hyperventilation/improper breathing alone can cause a panic attack.

Having a panic attack?

Control your breathing.

Slow. Deep. Steady.


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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Shroomism]
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It's easier said than done in my opinion. I've been there...and it's pretty tough to do anything about it.

My first and worst, I still think something popped in my brain. I had never heard of a panic attack at the time, so it only added to the fear of what was happening to me. I was into meditation at the time and had no clue what was happening. Tried to control my breathing, my thoughts...every attempt was useless.

I had had a pretty powerful, enjoyable acid trip the night before. I went and smoked a bunch of pot the next day and a just crazy fast beating heart came out of nowhere. My throat swelled up, chest constricted. Felt like I couldn't catch my breath. At that point, nightmarish thoughts of something really bad happening to me went through my head. I had never even heard of the term panic attack. I thought I might pass out and just wanted to. I went outside and tried to get some fresh cold air(night time).

My heart was beating so fast, it started skipping beats every few seconds. Just thinking about it gives me goosebumps. But that was just the beginning. All confused I told my friends I had to go. They stayed with me while I walked home. About 5 min into the walk, no joke, it felt like someone hit me in the back of the head with a mallet. I collapsed to the ground. I started saying outloud how I didn't want to die. My friends helped me up. I was crying. My limbs were shaking and out of control. I kept falling over because of my shakey limbs, but made it another couple of minutes until...BANG. Another beating from the inside of my head resulting in my falling over HARD This continued for about 15 minutes and I was about half way from home. This entire walk it was getting worse and worse. Obviously, all this shit happening to me was just feeding the fear. There was no stopping this train of horror. At about the halfway point, I could just feel all my blood pumping through my brain, my heart skipping beats and going so fast and then the biggest explosion happened in my head. It was 10X worse than any of the previous ones and it felt like it happened in the middle of my head somewhere, not in the back like the others. At that point I fell over and slightly lost consciousness for a good 5-10 seconds and I could hear the fear in my friends voices while they tried to pick me up. And at the same time as the explosion in my head, I remember truly feeling like I had just shit my pants violently. I could even feel it in my pants as I was being basically carried home.

I truly thought I was going to die. Kept saying I was done with all drugs. Kept repeating all of that. I got home and layed down. I could sense so much fear from my friends. They sat on my bedroom floor while I covered up with a blanket. Was so cold, shaking, afraid. The explosions in my head were still happening, but in longer intervals. I could tell it was dying down. From the intitial start of the attack, it lasted about 30 minutes and that's when I fell asleep.

When I woke up 3-4 hours later, I felt so glad to be alive. I felt sober, but very shaken. I felt normal though....besides the worst headache I had ever had in my life...pinpointed to that one specific spot on the back of my head. I felt so drained. I took an Advil and went back to sleep for 10+ hours.

Ever since then, I can't even smoke a full joint. All sorts of horrible feelings in my chest, head, arms, brain...you name it.

Sometimes I think something really bad happened that night. I wasn't just imagining something bad happening in my head...enough to take me to the ground mutiple times until at one point it felt like something exploded in my head and I felt like I shit my pants(which by the way I didn't...which is weird)....and then waking up with such a pin-pointed headache. It really makes me wonder.

You only have one brain people...please, just take care of it.

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Spooge]
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I think that, whatever you do, you have to remain in control of some things. Posture, breath, energy levels. That's why you have to remain grounded and remember that there is always everything. You are part of a humoungous whole made up of tiny matter. Simply realizing this is a way to gain perspective. We all make judgements in order to understand what's happening. Our judgements make the difference just as much as what is actually happening. When you lose everything else, simply remember, breath. Breath. Feelings. Posture yourself against gravity and deal with it.


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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: The_Hobbit]
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The trick that worked for me was to learn a little bit about them.
Once you understand how they work you realize there's no reason to panic.

Which leads me onto my next bit, when you have an attack, don't panic.
Recognize what's happening then just sit with it.
Once you learn how to not react to the feelings then your not having panic attacks anymore, they're basically just weird attacks.

As soon as i got my head round this, i was no longer adding to my attacks by stressing, then they slowly got better and better.

Tackle them mentally by changing the way you view them, if you can make them as less of an issue in your mind as possible then they will start to fade slowly.

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Mike_yy]
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mikeyyork said:
Once you learn how to not react to the feelings then your not having panic attacks anymore, they're basically just weird attacks.


I can imagine sitting in nature, watching the ocean break and the birds fly by. Then I get this weird feeling for a little bit. Interesting. Keep watching. =)


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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Mike_yy]
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I agree with you on the perception of them being extremely important. I kept having them following my first very bad trip, I felt my diaphragm contract and my breathing became shallow and my heart started to race. My eyes screwed up and near things looked far away. I had this sensation of impending doom, guilt and fear of going crazy. I avoided anything that might bring me back to the event, I even blocked my hippie friend who had got me into mushrooms from my MSN list, just tried to move on completely. I still felt on the edge a lot of the time though. I realized that sugar and coffee were making things a lot worse, being a workaholic I was having way too much coffee. After cutting out sugar and caffeine I started to feel better. I went to see a shiatsu masseuse and she could tell I had been having panic attacks just by feeling me up, she said she could fix them fairly easily. I cannot prove for sure that she got rid of them but I have not had one for nearly a year now.

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Re: What exactly happens during an anxiety/panic attack? [Re: Andy21]
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This does suck. I had fought an ego-death trip on acid and tons of pot (and i'm very sensitive to pot). That was my first ego-death experience, and it shattered my world-view and left me chillin with a 12 hour panic attack until the acid trip was over. I had depersonalization and derealization from the extreme anxiety for about 5 months, and I'm finally starting to feel better. It was a matter of integrating the experience and expanding my view of reality and letting go of control dramas. I'm a much better person because of it now, but I'm definitely a different person too. In a good, but strange way. Still dealing with generalized anxiety too, but that has more to do with my childhood than the drugs.


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