Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Ethnobotanical Garden
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

North Spore Shop: Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
sassafras
    #6051838 -

I remember when I was younger we went to a week long boy scout camp. Our leader told us all that there were sassafras trees all around there and showed us what it looked like. He made it very clear to us all that it was a dangerous drug and that if we were caught anywhere near it, we would be sent directly home.

I have looked everywhere for information on this tree and it's uses and I havn't come across anything that would give reason to keep kids away from it.

Does anyone know anything about this?

I'm starting to think my scout leader was a real douche. :boot:


--------------------
Space for sale.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: ATLean]
    #6051851 -

From sassafras, one can isolate safrole... which is used in MDMA synthesis.

Of course, MDMA synthesis is complex and requires an investment in some decent equipment. Nobody should attempt it unless they're confident about the chemistry involved as well as the procedure... to act without sufficient understanding of the process could be dangerous to oneself and anyone nearby (neighbors for example).


--------------------

I find your lack of faith disturbing

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: ATLean]
    #6051860 -

(meh Konnrade beat me to it...)

Safrole has been used as the main precursor for the clandestine manufacture of MDMA (Ecstasy) and MDEA (Eve). The standard synthetic procedure for the production of MDMA from safrole is via isomerization in the presence of a strong base to isosafrole. This is then oxidised to 3,4-methylenedioxy phenyl-2-propanone. Finally a reductive amination with either methylamine (to make MDMA) or ethylamine (to make MDEA)

:rasta:

Edited by Mycomancer (09/11/06 10:40 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Konnrade]
    #6051866 -

WTF we were like 14 and he thought we were going to go home and make MDMA? Unbelievable!!!


--------------------
Space for sale.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: ATLean]
    #6051874 -

It is said to have a narcotic effect in large doses and may also cause vomiting, stupor and hallucinations.  The oil can affect the heart and liver in a detrimental way, and it is considered mildly carcinogenic. 

:rasta:

Edited by Mycomancer (09/11/06 10:55 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Mycomancer]
    #6051879 -

safrole is a liver toxin, but it converts safrole to MDA does it not?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: ATLean]
    #6051917 -

ATLean said:
WTF we were like 14 and he thought we were going to go home and make MDMA? Unbelievable!!!


I wouldn't doubt that safrole itself could have effects on humans of some kind, as well.

I've never come across a 14-year old who knew enough about chemistry to make MDMA, hell... I've yet to meet a college student who can do it.

But if those 14-year-old kids had heard that sassafras could have inebriating effects on it's own, then they could get themselves into trouble.


--------------------

I find your lack of faith disturbing

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Konnrade]
    #6051922 -

i thought safrole was converted to MDA via the liver?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: CptnGarden]
    #6051932 -

that is true. so basically its like nutmeg inebriation, but extra toxic.

:rasta:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Mycomancer]
    #6052046 -

Mycomancer said:
that is true. so basically its like nutmeg inebriation, but extra toxic.

:rasta:


isnt nutmeg also very toxic to the liver if not more so?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: CptnGarden]
    #6052106 -

Nutmeg is also toxic to the liver, but i was thinking more in terms of carcinogenic activity which led the FDA to ban its use. 

interesting tidbit from botanical.com

Sassafras:
--Poison and Antidotes---The oil can produce marked narcotic poisoning, and death by causing widespread fatty degeneration of the heart, liver, and kidneys, or, in a larger dose, by great depression of the circulation, followed by a centric paralysis of respiration.

:rasta:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Mycomancer]
    #6052149 -

ok i got schooled, good info. :mushroom2:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: ATLean]
    #6052480 -

When I was a kid, we would make sassafras tea from the root bark of the tree. We wouldn't make this to get high, it just tasted good mixed with a little sugar. Back then we didn't know about any narcotic effect (at least I didn't). Every fall we would make up a big pot of tea. In the fall, the sap would run to the roots giving it more flavor. It wasn't until years later that I learnt about the carcinogenic properties of this plant. For a while you could even buy the roots in the store!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: sassafras [Re: Pinhead]
    #6052572 -

At was at a university library a month ago reading their awesome ethnobotanical books, and I came across sassafras and safrole as the specific chemical of description. It was in the US pharacopeia until the early 1900s, when they decided to ban it due to its carcinogenic properties, but what was interesting that the author chose to mention was that a 1 dose of sassafras tea was 1/13th as carcinogenic as 1 glass of beer... i thought that was quite interesting.


--------------------
"During evolutionary time, the avenues of possible progress have become progressively restricted, until today only one remains...Man...has been suddenly appointed managing director of the biggest business of all, the business of evolution."

Life begins the day you start a garden.

Check out my trade list in My Journal...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

North Spore Shop: Cultivation Supplies

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > The Ethnobotanical Garden
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Sassafras Albidum - Safrole?
( 1 2 all )		 gardenstate 3,768 31 07/28/15 06:37 AM
by kosmokratorshaman
* sassafras trees identification luckytriple6 1,956 17 06/01/09 10:43 AM
by luckytriple6
* sassafras / safrole?? jimcon202000 3,685 11 07/31/03 01:08 PM
by Ped
* Sassafras albidum
( 1 2 all )		 Teotzlcoatl 3,104 24 09/07/07 08:07 PM
by Teotzlcoatl
* Stressed Sassafras? st0ned.crazy 454 2 08/10/12 02:13 PM
by Tsuun
* Sassafras fluffheadd 587 2 12/30/12 06:06 PM
by endorfinder
* Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! kolizion 8,089 14 04/30/19 11:43 AM
by asdflkj115
* possible sassafras tree? Lipa Kreepa 796 7 11/09/09 07:17 PM
by Horticulture

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: karode13, Mostly_Harmless, A.k.a
1,475 topic views. 0 members, 230 guests and 17 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 16 queries.