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Offlinekolizion
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Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell!
    #2754203 - 06/01/04 08:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

After spending a lovely night at my girlfriends and wishing her to have a great followign day at work I headed to my car... all glorious thoughts of extraction ideas in my head as I found a huge collection of glasswear and a nice magnetic stir / heater.. and a boxload of funnels and shit at a local garage sale. Closing in on my car I thought... funny, that black thing on my seat doesn't look like something I would see every day. after gaining a closer look I noticed a large amount of glass on the passenger side seat where my closed box of goodys used to be, and a large gaping hole where my 1 year old 1,000.00 stereo used to be. angry and stressed, up the stairs and back to the girlfriends house to call the cops which did nothing for me, and left me with nothing.

well recently I have fixed my window, still have a gaping hole for a stereo, and a ton of missing glasswear I'm feeling slightly better... but lack of job, and lack of glasswear leaves me with very little money making opertunitys. So research Is all I'm left with right now.

before I show off my findings i'll first ask that if anyone has any old chemisty suplys laying around, or can get a fasinating hookup through school, please shoot me a private. I'm in need of the following

2 flat bottom flasks,
combination heat / stir plate
vaccume (I think I can rig one up, but would rather have actual)
steam distil setup,
sep funnel (can be rigged temp, but once again.. nice pyrex is awsome)

those of you who read the above will know what i'm looking for....

NOW ON WITH THE FUN SHIT....
(if you know better PLEASE correct, or add advice)

instead of converting the safrole from sasafrass oil, I thought I might have some easier of a time pulling the oil directly from the plants themselves...

in my research I have found wood bark bearing and leaf bearing plants.... I'm leaning more toward the leaf bearing safrole /isosafrole plants as I feel I would be able to obtain more product in a steam distill based on the persentage of leaf to bark.. faster grow times...

here are my findings for leaf bearing plants...

Cinnamomum paucifolium - 60%/90% safrole
Cinnamomum petrophilum - 97% safrole
Juniper virginiana - 11% safrole, 6% isosafrole
Piper callosum - 70% Safrole
Piper hispidinervium - 81%/88% safrole


now out of my findings JV seems like a worthy choice as it contains iso as well but the yiled would be so extreamly low that I would rather just find a high bearing safrole and do the conversion myself.

so... I'm leaning towards the findings of the Piper hispidinervium, and Cinnamomum petrophilum...

so I'm guessing that a basic steam distill would aid my a nice amount of safrole oil.


i'll be writeing up a large FAQ / tek When my experements are complete... but it won't be for a long ass time DUE to bastards who feel they needed my stereo and suplys more then I....


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2755499 - 06/02/04 02:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

this car window breaking kids should suffer to death, they do it all the time here. at least they didn't take your whole car, which could have happened if you took five more minutes, i've seen it happen in my youth days!


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2757279 - 06/02/04 05:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I can't stand thieves.... the stereo that I put in there was a good karma stereo. Back when I had a really cushy job at 14.00 an hour A friend of mine had his stereo jacked. So I sold him my super nice 600.00 stereo for 150 bucks, and went out and bought a super nice stereo. Now, I can't afford to replace almost anything that was taken from my car.


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2758438 - 06/02/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

shit happens.
i use to trade a lot of plants and seeds and once someone called fungusmaximusFM, saying himself mod at nansnook (and it really was him), ripped me off a huge cactus box with assorted precious plants of my collection... priceless. more than a rip off.


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2759955 - 06/03/04 10:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Pipirenol is 3, 4, methylenedioxybenzaldehyde and MDA is 3, 4, methylenedioxyamphetamine.

3 steps, the Claissen rearrangement (Ammoniate, Nitrate and dehydrogenate and you have MDA.

Piperinol is a heliotropane used in making perfumes.

mj

An essential oil.


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2760388 - 06/03/04 12:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Do these chemicals not have carcinogenic or mutagenic properties? for some reason I thought they did.


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2760891 - 06/03/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

felix .. I'm kinda lost on your post... this guy stole a box of traded cacti from you? or what happend?


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2760974 - 06/03/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

But the question remains.. Is growing this plant worth it? But is MDA even possible in kitchen chemistry?


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2761052 - 06/03/04 06:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

just a trade rip off.
i trusted a cock sucker.

anyways, are cinamomum spp those trees which have fruits that look like little pellets and delicious smelling purplish clustered flowers?


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2761179 - 06/03/04 08:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

magic, yes if you have the meterials... anything is possible in a kitchen...

felix, shoot the bastard!

and to answer your question, i have never seen any of the plants listed... only thoughts to growing them have come to mind recently after feeling it would be less irritating to grow the plant / tree via buying the oil.


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: felixhigh]
    #2767571 - 06/06/04 12:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I publicized your bad trade on Nan's Nook.

You should register over there. FM posted an apology and asked the people he wronged to PM him.


Edited by tourist (06/06/04 12:22 AM)


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: nookjohn]
    #2767587 - 06/06/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm confused.. You did the bad trade with felix? FM did? Are you saying felix was the bad trader? Felix is an excellent trader, always pulls through with more.. just incase you are wondering..


The idea of syntheszing psychedelic amphetamines , starting from growoing the plant, seems extremely far out.. good luck!


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2769346 - 06/06/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

somone wronged felix on a trade.

speaking of which, I need to send off a bunch of seeds before I get a bad trade report myself heheh.


Edited by kolizion (06/06/04 05:16 PM)


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Re: Safrole / isosafrole containing plants, and car hell! [Re: kolizion]
    #2773351 - 06/08/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

hehe...

though i dont have any spare materials... i do applaud your idea!  grow it straight outta the ground i say :smile:

peace
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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


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