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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: daytripper23]
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daytripper23 said:
well yea i guess your right.i misspoke when i said it doesnt cause violence. I dont know martial arts, so im not familiar with the code and what not. My real point actually was about the religious wars. Ive also not heard of any fundamentalist buddhists killing in the name of zen.

an entire movement such as the crusades, or the islamic fundamentalist stuff based on buddhism, hasnt happened to my knowledge.



Actually Buddhists had a lot of power in Japan, I think. They basically had the warlords slaughter other buddhists cause they were too powerful or some shit like that. Donno, I forgot that shit but yea, Buddhism does have a history of being violent.

ShroomDr said:
alpharedecho said:
you Jewish?

Think for yourself, I have nothing against average Jews, but these Zionist are destroying our planet(along with others) IMO.



Basilides said:
I don't think anyone is capable of destroying the planet other than humanity as a whole.



downforpot said:
Yes but there is a tendency to blame everything on the jews. The plague that killed millions in Europe was blamed on the Jews. Thousands of Jews were killed by Europeans because they thought the Jews caused the plague. Then you have the Nazis that blamed the poor German economy on the Jews. So yea, if there's a problem the Jews will always be there as a scapegoat.



Ok, did he blame the Jews, or the ZIONIST. The 'tendency' you speak of, is something YOU are making worse by not reading what is written, only was you think was said. Its not a 'blame the Jews' problem,

Is this guy anti-Jewish


Or does he believe, as is written in the bible. That God choose the Jews as 'the chosen people' and cast them into exile.
Was God WRONG?



And as for that guy, I have no idea. I heard of them before but they are pretty much 100% conservative and follow the old test. 100%.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/10/06 03:50 AM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: EquilibriuM]
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It would also be hard for someone who does not study the martial arts to realize. but you can be spiritually awake without that kind of study. I dont know if i agree or not. could it not be just as easy to externalize it with other methods?


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  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: downforpot]
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But were they just buddhists who happened to do this? did they use buddhism to justify what they did? It seems impossible. The simplicity of buddhism is what makes it seem so right.


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  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: EquilibriuM]
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EquilibriuM said:
I don't think Buddhist monks practice fighting for its violence. They are after the personal power... They are fighting an internal struggle which happens to manifest itself in external form. I suppose its not easy for people who don't have a spiritual calling to understand that...



my arsehole is more spiritual than your whole body and soul if you think disguised little insults like that count


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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: quiver]
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NO, I was being genuine. Not an insult at all. relax... I didn't come here for any of that shit.

Some people are more tuned to the spiritual side of things. Others to the more physical side. If you want to put values on it, which is better and which is worse, go right ahead. They just are, and there is nothing wrong with it...


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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: downforpot]
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downforpot said:
ShroomDr said:
Is this guy anti-Jewish


Or does he believe, as is written in the bible.  That God choose the Jews as 'the chosen people' and cast them into exile. 
Was God WRONG?



And as for that guy, I have no idea. I heard of them before but they are pretty much  100% conservative and follow the old test. 100%. 




One more time.  They believe that the JEWS ARE IN EXILE!  No Jewish Homeland is acceptable, because GOD SAYS SO.

I believe the Torah also speaks of problems assocated with ANY Religious Homeland.  Jewish or Otherwise.  It is too exclusive, and those in the 'homeland' that do not hold the same religous beliefs, are doomed to be second class citizens.

'Hey, weren't the Jews treated as second class citizens for most of recorded history?'

How well do the Irsreali's (Read: ZIONIST, not JEWS) treat the non Jewish citizens of there 'homeland'? 

Rather than writing this Shepartic Jew off as, 'pretty much  100% conservative and follow the old test. 100%' you should give him more credit.  I'm sure his beliefs are a little more in depth.

Someone could label him as a liberal pussy, who is afraid of change, fearful of 'Terrorist', open to appeasement, isolationist, etc.

OR, you can look at the history of Sephardic Jews(wiki).  Realizing, they have always been second class, have a long history of beliefs without many changes (*cough* Catholicism :rolleyes:), and just the general plight of most jews worldwide for, o say 4000 years.

Then perhaps, people will lend this guy a little more credit than 'pretty much  100% conservative and follow the old test. 100%'


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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite said:
Look at all the retards here http://www.wiki.faithfreedom.org/index.php/Mohammedans_praying



Look despite what you think not all Muslims see things the way you paint them as seeming them. On the other hand you ARE a racist.


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Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities.
-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
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ShroomDr said:
One more time.  They believe that the JEWS ARE IN EXILE!  No Jewish Homeland is acceptable, because GOD SAYS SO.



yes, that is why they are called conservative, orthodox jews.



ShroomDr said:
'Hey, weren't the Jews treated as second class citizens for most of recorded history?'



Yes, when the muslims conquered them they were put into second class status.

ShroomDr said:
How well do the Irsreali's (Read: ZIONIST, not JEWS) treat the non Jewish citizens of there 'homeland'? 



Actually arabs that live in Israel and are Israeli citizens have more rights than Palestinians.

ShroomDr said:
Rather than writing this Shepartic Jew off as, 'pretty much  100% conservative and follow the old test. 100%' you should give him more credit.  I'm sure his beliefs are a little more in depth.



No, they are a little more fundamental.


ShroomDr said:
OR, you can look at the history of Sephardic Jews(wiki).  Realizing, they have always been second class, have a long history of beliefs without many changes (*cough* Catholicism :rolleyes:), and just the general plight of most jews worldwide for, o say 4000 years.



If they want to be second class citizens then fuck em, let them live in Muslim lands and be discriminated against. Sorry, but I want Jews to have their own country and place where all Jews are 1st class citizens.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: downforpot]
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Actually, during most of the Muslim Empire's life, Jews were treated well. After Southern Spain was conquered, it became the pinnacle of culture and technology because of Muslim and Jewish cooperation.

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: Redstorm]
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Yes, I know that some Jews became prosperous in Muslim Empires but there were always periodic massacares of Jewish communities. The same goes for Germany. There were many prosperous and smart Jews there like Einstein but they all had to leave because of increased hatred towards Jews.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/10/06 03:50 PM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: downforpot]
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Got any historical examples of these pre-colonial Jewish massacres by Muslim governors?


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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (11/27/14 09:29 PM)

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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (11/27/14 09:29 PM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: Luddite]
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Typical mainland European feux Liberalism. If you had the British perspective you wouldn't be so passive aggressive. You guys don't play cricket so you don't have any reason to know who Imran Khan is (by the way "Bin Laden" ?-"come to me all those who are heavily Laden"-"Bin Dead-awhile")


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"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

Edited by Silverwolf (09/10/06 05:16 PM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: Basilides]
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Basilides said:
Got any historical examples of these pre-colonial Jewish massacres by Muslim governors?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (11/27/14 09:30 PM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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So Zionism was created in 1033 when Jews were massacred in Morrocco. Why did you disregard that section but read the ones that occured during the 1900's?


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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Edited by EntheogenicPeace (11/27/14 09:30 PM)

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Re: Islam is the most Warlike Religion [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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Actually it depends on the time period. Just search through wiki and you will find all the info.

Basically at times Jews had more rights in the Middle East than in Europe. Then during other times it was the opposite. Actually a section of the article I showed talks about Jews having more rights when a European country conquered Morocco, I think.

Also, during WWII a Muslim leader prevented his Jewish citizens from being sent to concetration camps in Europe but Jewish noncitizens were all sent to concentration camps. I forgot which country that was but its in wiki, somewhere.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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