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A little while ago then. I don't feel quite so bad now. But brain cancer? Ouch! How the hell did that happen, and does anyone know his "dates" so that I can include them in the title please?
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (02/23/06 05:25 PM)
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 Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !"  [Re: Silverwolf]
#5332404 - 02/23/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're not like the others. You like the same things I do. Wax paper, boiled football leather... dog breath. We're not hitch-hiking anymore, we're riding!
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Thank you.
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (02/24/06 05:35 PM)
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: Silverwolf]
#5344807 - 02/27/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's more information on the Brethonic Mesolithic tradition I would like to post you guys and I should be able to when I recover my now out-of-print copy of James Vogh's book on the subject. However I don't believe this thread belongs here ("The Pub") anymore so I have asked for it to be moved.
Terence McKenna died in April 2000 of a form of brain cancer called Glioblastoma Multiforme.
"Of the estimated 17,000 primary brain tumors diagnosed in the United states each year approximately 60% are gliomas. Gliomas comprise a heterogenous group of neoplasms that differ in location in the CNS (Central Nervous System .ed), in age and sex distribution, in growth potential, in extent of invasiveness, in morphological features, in tendency for progression and in response to treatment.
Glioblastoma Multiforme (GBM) is by far the most common and malignant of the glial tumors. Composed of poorly constructed neoplastic astrocytes (? .ed), glioblastomas primarily affect adults, and they are located preferentially in the cerebral hemispheres. Much less commonly GBMs can affect the brain stem in children and the spinal cord. These tumors (Which ones ?.ed) may develop from lower-grade astrocytomas (World Health Organisation -W.H.O- grade2) or anaplastic astrocytomas (W.H.O grade3), but ,more frequently they manifest de novo ("as new" .ed), without any evidence of a less malignant precursor lesion. The treatment of glioblastomas is palliative and includes surgery, radiotherapy, and chemotherapy (That's just great, chemotherapy followed by an aggressive single dose of radiotherapy killed a patient ("client"/"friend") of mine! ed)."
From an aticle by Jeffrey Bruce M.D. Columbia University College of physicians.
"Glioblastoma Multiforme is the most common and most aggresive of primary brain tumors.The current World Health..." Article by ABM Saladin Uddin MD (www.emedicine.com/Neuro/topic147.htm)
P.S You will note that much of the above post appears in italics, such was not my intention. This is something that has happened to many of us at one time or another and unfortunately (presumably owing to some glitch in the memory function of the sites programming) it cannot be corrected once it happens. Here is how I think you prevent it from happening; do not click the Italics icon twice (once at the begining of the word or phrase required and once when you have finished), instead horizontally scroll until you have cleared the second italics icon and continue. Do not use the icon again to close as this may affect the entire post. Any comments?
Edited by Silverwolf (03/07/06 06:52 PM)
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curenado
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: Silverwolf]
#5918868 - 07/31/06 03:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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<<"Hallucinogens are hardly welcome in agricultural societies.">>
Heh-heh...try telling that to the agricultural society I'ma livin' in right now, 'cause that's just plain naive.
In all seriousness though, I feel that the hypothesis is too conclusive considering that there is always a little of everything going on everywhere. Sometimes it's in the limelight, others, all but gone.
I just couldn't resist the "hillbilly hee-haw" about aggy people don't eat neurotropics! 
(psychsplit)
<<he was a thinker, he never claimed to be a prophet, a lot of people just put him up on a pedestal and worship him as one tho.
rest in peace.>>
Amen. I believe the late Mr. McKenna displayed the kind of curiosity and determination that would have made him dispassionate about learning something that blew all his other ideas away as it would seem no more than a natural progression.
In any worthwhile scholarly effort one is best to view in comparison with all the available and reliable material because this is how those who write them arrive at their theories and conclusions - and whether they build on or bash each other is a natural wonderful process called "discovery".
Because of his areas and opinions he suffered what many people in such a condition do - a bunch of loving and well meaning people "projecting" their hopeful ideals and feelings and creating an environment of overmuch "hero worship" which one fears may establish a prejudice against one's work even before it is considered.
He tried not to be a tit is what I am saying, even if he attracted a cloud of them.
The inescapable tragedy of Terrance McKenna for me has always been that his academic study of neurotropics did not reveal to him their extremely potent anti-cancer activity which readily crosses the blood/brain barrier.
I find it astonishing that a man who spent so much time on these creatures perished (with no help from the devoted society of tits...) most probably for the simple lack of them, and guided care by a competent physician.
Maybe his devotees should fund neurotropic medicine and support/supply clinics that treat these people if they would do something to honor his memory that made him more than "another one of those teeny bopper dope gurus" - something appropriate that is more befitting his dignity.
(For the absolutely stupid: no, I don't mean something like a commemorative tie-dye with him and Jesus...)
Ok - gawd, sorry! - to close:
where he is right now is full of stars; and he is laughing at us all!
and the lecture endeth here
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Yours in the Natural State!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have patches to keep, and jars to sterilize before I sleep...."
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: curenado]
#5918946 - 07/31/06 03:42 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know this an old post, and as I didn't bump it, I have no problems continuing it.
Is this from a book or an audio recording, what? I tried googling with no results, as well as Amazon.
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channel your inner Larry David
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: demiu5]
#5919047 - 07/31/06 04:20 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually don't know. All my news is old too. Someone e-mailed me this thread and without looking presumed it was current...?
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Yours in the Natural State!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have patches to keep, and jars to sterilize before I sleep...."
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: curenado]
#5922216 - 08/01/06 03:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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anyone know where the original post's quotes came from?
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Silverwolf
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: demiu5]
#6032187 - 09/05/06 04:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
demius said:
anyone know where the original post's quotes came from?
Yes, from "The Archaic Revival" (which is what this thread is getting) a book by T.M.
I'd love to continue this somewhere however I'm awaiting a response to my suggestion for an "Ancient Societies and Shamanic Tradition" forum. If you like the idea let me (or the adminstrators) know..
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (09/05/06 05:48 PM)
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Silverwolf
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: curenado]
#6032259 - 09/05/06 05:07 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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curenado said:
<<"Hallucinogens are hardly welcome in agricultural societies.">>
Heh-heh...try telling that to the agricultural society I'ma livin' in right now, 'cause that's just plain naive.
In all seriousness though, I feel that the hypothesis is too conclusive considering that there is always a little of everything going on everywhere. Sometimes it's in the limelight, others, all but gone.
I just couldn't resist the "hillbilly hee-haw" about aggy people don't eat neurotropics!
(psychsplit)
<<he was a thinker, he never claimed to be a prophet, a lot of people just put him up on a pedestal and worship him as one tho.
rest in peace.>>
Amen. I believe the late Mr. McKenna displayed the kind of curiosity and determination that would have made him dispassionate about learning something that blew all his other ideas away as it would seem no more than a natural progression.
In any worthwhile scholarly effort one is best to view in comparison with all the available and reliable material because this is how those who write them arrive at their theories and conclusions - and whether they build on or bash each other is a natural wonderful process called "discovery".
Because of his areas and opinions he suffered what many people in such a condition do - a bunch of loving and well meaning people "projecting" their hopeful ideals and feelings and creating an environment of overmuch "hero worship" which one fears may establish a prejudice against one's work even before it is considered.
He tried not to be a tit is what I am saying, even if he attracted a cloud of them.
The inescapable tragedy of Terrance McKenna for me has always been that his academic study of neurotropics did not reveal to him their extremely potent anti-cancer activity which readily crosses the blood/brain barrier.
I find it astonishing that a man who spent so much time on these creatures perished (with no help from the devoted society of tits...) most probably for the simple lack of them, and guided care by a competent physician.
Maybe his devotees should fund neurotropic medicine and support/supply clinics that treat these people if they would do something to honor his memory that made him more than "another one of those teeny bopper dope gurus" - something appropriate that is more befitting his dignity.
(For the absolutely stupid: no, I don't mean something like a commemorative tie-dye with him and Jesus...)
Ok - gawd, sorry! - to close:
where he is right now is full of stars; and he is laughing at us all!
and the lecture endeth here
"Spare the rod and spoil the child!" C..give us a good thrashing next time!
"Vibrationally" this Karmic "Tit" collection you mention "recognises" (it seems to me) the frequency of crystal D.M.T use...if I said "it creates emotionally needy, defensive people, whom seem to be preparing lemming like for the end of all things (including their own lives!)" what would you say?
Changing the subject somewhat I need to add a scholarly note, as follows: as I currently understand it the term "Mesolithic" would (in these isles at least) seem to refer to a "sophisticated society" mainly involved with shamanistic agriculture and environmental management and practicing one religious faith. However the period concerned would appear to span both the Paleolithic and Neolithic ages. Can anyone help, am I totally off beam here?
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (09/05/06 05:50 PM)
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: Silverwolf]
#6032996 - 09/05/06 08:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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<<if I said "it creates emotionally needy, defensive people, whom seem to be preparing lemming like for the end of all things (including their own lives!)" what would you say?>>
I would say it is possible that we all know many things - and are all in it together, giggling all the way!
What does the "cancophony of souls" care about "living" and "dying" in any given place - if you are going to the soul level, of course we are all getting ready to go somewhere. "Tits" and all I think.
There used to be a little boy on my block who couldn't ride his bike. That little sucker grabbed it and ran beside it pushing all the way to keep up with the other kids. I used to love that!
One day he must have figured it out - and I'm sure he was happy about that, but I'll never forget the determination irregardless of the circumstance!
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Yours in the Natural State!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have patches to keep, and jars to sterilize before I sleep...."
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: curenado]
#6034306 - 09/06/06 05:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like "mind-rape" to me (self-perpetrated))! Wasn't McKenna eventually consumed? Anyway I thought you were working on an extraction, are you sure your interpretation of my last post is vibrationally correct? Consider the Banasteriopsis Caapi it's propagation and care!
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (09/07/06 08:46 AM)
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curenado
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: Silverwolf]
#6034901 - 09/06/06 12:12 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wolf - You are right - I obviously misinterpreted your post.
I still don't know what you are exactly saying because of either your or my vibrations.....
I can only hope my vibrations remain good, or at least good enough for me and mine.
I make plenty of extracts, but I don't try to read their vibes. I think one can get a little meshuga with too much of that.
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Yours in the Natural State!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have patches to keep, and jars to sterilize before I sleep...."
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Re: "Mr.Terence Mckenna !" [Re: curenado]
#6035190 - 09/06/06 02:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You say "Tomaeto" I say Tomato (of-course).."Let's call the whole thing off!"...
Also "C" on my "Evolutions" tape Mckenna talks about smoking DMT it is however unclear whether he is talking about a Psychotria Viridis extract or a synthesised analogue. Does anyone know precisely what he was using?
I must also admit that there's something about the "vibe" of crystal DMT use I am very wary of, I've never done it myself.
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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""
Edited by Silverwolf (09/07/06 08:59 AM)
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