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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: kake]
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kake said:
aren't most diamonds being sold these days 'conflict diamonds' ?

what a gesture... spend a huge chunk of money on a gift harvested through hate, opression, by murderers rapists and terrorists. i love you, wifey!


Only a very small percentage of diamonds originate in conflict areas.

But I think the entire business reeks.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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See rubies, aquamarine, topaz those are good rocks!

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: kake]
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kake said:
aren't most diamonds being sold these days 'conflict diamonds'?


No, I don't think most of them are, but the problem is there's almost no way of knowing whether or not the diamond you're buying is a conflict diamond.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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Canadian diamonds have a microscopic image of a Polar Bear on 'em to show that they aren't conflict diamonds, but you may have to pay more for them.

http://www.cachetbykalli.com/


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
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Clarity, Cut, Carats, Dead Rwandans


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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I think the whole diamond thing is a lure, in which it implies, hey come with me and you'll be taken care of, but if it doesn't workout you have something that you can aleast hoc for a profit,

so then she reasons well, this is partial insurance in case it doesn't work out, it falls in the same lines as a prenuptial agreement

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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Honestly, I sometimes wonder why it's not Africans who are committing terrorism against the West.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: capliberty]
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capliberty said:
I think the whole diamond thing is a lure, in which it implies, hey come with me and you'll be taken care of


Exactly. Perhaps it is a symbol of security. Like it or not, women value security.

While I don't necessarily agree with the practice, buying a diamond is (unfortunately) part of societal courtship. Despite what many say, the vast majority of women prefer a real diamond.

Someone should start a poll: "Guys, would you mind if after you bought a ring, your fiance' gained 300 lbs?".

The correct answer is: "of course not, I married her out of love". The truth however, is usually different.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Honestly, I sometimes wonder why it's not Africans who are committing terrorism against the West.


The africans are too hungry to pull that shit. I mean, the arabs and iranians are hungry too, but not african hungry.

Besides, the africans only care about dominating eachother.

Join hands for peace!


Also:
The practice of buying diamonds for engagement is a relatively recent development and arguably stems directly from it being created intentionally by DeBeers.

They created value by controlling production, and then created a demand.


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Edited by Kid_Orgo (08/16/06 03:32 PM)

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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getting a ring seems silly in the first place. If you place importance on the ring though, dont be a ghetto bitch and get the real deal.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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Fuck diamonds right in the ear.
Well not diamonds themselves.. but fuck the whole stigma of society that comes with them.
The diamond industry is one of the more fucked up industries in practice in modern society. Probably <95% of the US diamonds come from De Beers and we know how ethical they are. A $5 rock becomes a $5,000 rock, to you.. the consumer.. with a bunch of dead africans in its trail.
IMHO any woman who expects a diamond ring to "prove your love" is a materialistic and brainwashed person.
Besides, the dated modern ritual of marriage is fucking broken, considering more than half of the marriages in the US end in divorce. A diamond didn't save their marriage.
Marriages should be based on mutual love, respect, compassion, understanding, trust, and a whole bunch of other shit. But not diamonds.
Sure.. giving a ring with a gemstone as a symbol of union is one thing fine and dandy. But to expect your lover to spend thousands of dollars that most people can't afford... on a worthless shiny rock as some sort of status symbol because it's the 'norm of society' is fucking illogical and retarded. That money could be much better spent, I don't know.. paying the mortgage and grocery bills, or sending your kids to college.

Diamonds would be cool if they were like other precious stones, but they're not because they've been whored by the man.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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I don't wanna read all the posts, but...

If she's a hippy it probably won't matter as much.

If she's not... then she'll constantly deny the fact that it's not 'real' from her friends. Eventually lying to everyone will eat at her. That bitch.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Fuck diamonds right in the ear.
Well not diamonds themselves.. but fuck the whole stigma of society that comes with them.
The diamond industry is one of the more fucked up industries in practice in modern society. Probably <95% of the US diamonds come from De Beers and we know how ethical they are. A $5 rock becomes a $5,000 rock, to you.. the consumer.. with a bunch of dead africans in its trail.
IMHO any woman who expects a diamond ring to "prove your love" is a materialistic and brainwashed person.
Besides, the dated modern ritual of marriage is fucking broken, considering more than half of the marriages in the US end in divorce. A diamond didn't save their marriage.
Marriages should be based on mutual love, respect, compassion, understanding, trust, and a whole bunch of other shit. But not diamonds.
Sure.. giving a ring with a gemstone as a symbol of union is one thing fine and dandy. But to expect your lover to spend thousands of dollars that most people can't afford... on a worthless shiny rock as some sort of status symbol because it's the 'norm of society' is fucking illogical and retarded. That money could be much better spent, I don't know.. paying the mortgage and grocery bills, or sending your kids to college.

Diamonds would be cool if they were like other precious stones, but they're not because they've been whored by the man.

/rant


Totally agree 100%

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Shroomism]
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i know of rocks that go for 20 bucks and they only lasts ten minutes :irdumbtard:

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
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DRTMaverick said:
cubic zirconia instead of Diamond...

I dunno, but would you prefer a pewter wedding band or a solid gold one?


Good answer!
I am not out to be a money grubbing bitch.
As someone said before, as long as they tell
me up front that it is not gold, I wouldn't have
a problem at all. Are you marrying the ring, or
the man?

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Bowers]
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I would buy her a cubic zyrconium strap on and let her fuck me in the ass, before I would buy her a diamond.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: psiclops]
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yeah get a strap on with a dildo as hard as diamonds, I think you'd derive better longterm pleasure and satisfaction going that route

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
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Fuck diamonds and their fucking lab-grown lookalikes.

Give me something else instead. 
Like a rock plucked from a creekbed.
Hell, stick it in a tumbler and make it shiny.  Shiny is gut, ja. 

:happyheart:  :happyheart:  :thumbup:  :happyheart:


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