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InvisibleSilversoul
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Question for the ladies
    #5954760 - 08/11/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If your boyfriend gave you an engagement ring, would you be offended if it was a cubic zirconia instead of a real diamond?
Well?
You may choose only one


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954767 - 08/11/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

very good question.. im prolly gettin my lover cubic zirconia ne wayz.. but it would be interesting to see what the ladies think


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954803 - 08/11/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I say No.

Not as long as he phucks the shit outta me to make up for it.

There are other things he can buy me over the years, that would mean more to me
than a diamond.

ie. a new bass amp.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954806 - 08/11/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No. Sometimes money is hard and I'm understanding of this. Besides, it's not really about the ring. IMO


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #5954817 - 08/11/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I figure as long as he comes clean about it being fake, and doesn't try to LIE about it, I wouldn't care.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5954831 - 08/11/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Lily_Morgan said:
I figure as long as he comes clean about it being fake, and doesn't try to LIE about it, I wouldn't care.




Very good point in deed. It would make all the difference in the world.
Especially under strained financial circumstances.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954850 - 08/11/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Keep in mind that most ladies haven't travelled into the land of Psychedelia. Not that it means anything, but it could.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5954858 - 08/11/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Depends on the financial situation. When my hubby wanted to propose he almost got the CZ but we found a killer deal on eBay. It's all about the loving'


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954862 - 08/11/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Depends on the financial situation. If my man couldn't afford a real ring, for all I care it could come from a cracker jax box. But if he COULD, and was just being a jew, then I'd be kinda pissed.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954880 - 08/11/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think its cheap if a guy dosn't


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5954882 - 08/11/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

or what about those new manufactured diamonds they can make.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: CosmicFool]
    #5954996 - 08/11/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's about the feeling behind it more than anything else. If it makes a huge difference in the relationship whether or not it's a real diamond, then your valuing the ring more than the relationship. I would love my boyfriend/fiance the same way if it were a 3,000 dollar ring or if it was tin foil [an onion ring is also acceptable =D ] as long as the love is still behind it.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: younikrawn]
    #5954999 - 08/11/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If my girlfriend expected any kind of expensive ring at all for engagement or marriage, I would dump her immediately.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5955031 - 08/11/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hahahaha, it's all dudes that want to see the results. Where the girlies at?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: bukkake]
    #5955059 - 08/11/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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bukkake said:
If my girlfriend expected any kind of expensive ring at all for engagement or marriage, I would dump her immediately.





Exactly. :thumbup:


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5955220 - 08/11/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

my gf isnt with me for my money(more like the other way around) jk but she expects a "real" engagement ring.
you two get in some drunk argument and the truth comes out
get your girl something real doesnt have to be big but if its real it makes it more official.
diamonds are a girls best friend. trust me shell be on your dick.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Da_Vine]
    #5955283 - 08/11/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If you are up front and honest about it, it will be easier. And as long as you don't go and buy yourself a plasma screen TV instead, it shouldn't be the problem. How about skipping the CZ anyways. There are lots of colorful (and way cheaper) stones/gems than diamonds out there, who said the ring had to be a diamond anyway.

But whatever you do don't lie. That will get you in way more trouble. Girls can tell!

And if she gets pissed that it isn't a diamond, then maybe your girl needs to open her eyes and see the world as less materialistic.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Liz]
    #5955315 - 08/11/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Liz said:But if he COULD, and was just being a jew,




pretty classy.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Noetical]
    #5955398 - 08/12/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Noetical said:
I think its cheap if a guy dosn't



What if he does it for ethical reasons(i.e. not wanting to get conflict diamonds)?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5955414 - 08/12/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I dont care what ANYONE says, IME ladies want diamonds. De Beers has done a very good job unfortunalty :grin: :frown:


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5955431 - 08/12/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

For some reason I don't think I would want to get a diamond ring for a girl. Not just because they're expensive but because it's unoriginal. It would be more interesting to choose a precious stone together and get rings, maybe a couple other pieces of jewelry with the matching stone because since it's probably cheaper you could get more than a ring.

I really just don't like diamonds at all, the only thing that makes them so great IMO is their price. I need a rock with more color and style!


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5955477 - 08/12/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The funniest part of this thread is that it proves that there are practically no women on the Shroomery.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5955483 - 08/12/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

1-to-4 is a lot better than I thought it actually was.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5955487 - 08/12/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Dude...you should see the gatherings. It's like 3 girls and 30 guys.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5955528 - 08/12/06 01:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

gathering i went to recently had a bunch of girls. they were all lookers too.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5955624 - 08/12/06 03:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well all u beezies who would accept, y0, I got hella diamonds, ya know?

talk to me, I'll hook all y'all up. NAH MEAN?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5967787 - 08/15/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

He could buy a canadian polar bear diamond


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5968925 - 08/16/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Apparently only me and one other woman would prefer an actual diamond. Then again, I don't believe that marriage is really that important or necessary, so this isn't a situation I would find myself in...however if I were to want to get married, I would prefer an actual diamond. I'd rather have a tiny real diamond than some honkin' cubic zirconia.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: adrug]
    #5968955 - 08/16/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno i just don't see the point in spending so much money on something like that. I mean i'd rather spend the money he would spend on a real diamond into the wedding and make it one bangin party. Then again i don't really give a shit about jewelry at all.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5968983 - 08/16/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Cubic is pure cheapskate. Get a solid band or something if you have ethical issues with diamonds. Also, if your going to marry a girl and be with her for the rest of your LIFE, then what the fuck is few thousand dollars? a very minor investment.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #5968997 - 08/16/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well that's the thing i don't think the money really says anything. the amount of money you spend on me means NOTHING about how much you like me unless you're broke as fuck and buy me things beucase you wnat to make me happy... then the action speaks volumes.. but.. i dunno.. i agree with what you're saying? but i dunno there are other things money would be better spent on.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969019 - 08/16/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree it's not about the money, but the majority of women like shiney things, and shiney things cost money. But of course actions speak louder and thats why I will hold off on marriage for as long as possible, I don't need to prove anything with a ring.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #5969081 - 08/16/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think I'd actually prefer something other than either a diamond or CZ. I'm not a gaudy rock type of girl... A $20 ring from Walmart would be okay by me. As long as loving thought was involved.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969095 - 08/16/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I feel what you put in is what you get out of it. If you work hard for that real dimond it shows that you will work hard for your family. Proves that you can work it.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: boatlaunch]
    #5969104 - 08/16/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I say No.

Not as long as he phucks the shit outta me to make up for it.





What about if he just fucks the shit out of you without giving you a ring?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969105 - 08/16/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I won't be getting married :smirk:


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969129 - 08/16/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

working hard to get something so trivial as a real diamond doesn't prove anything.. it proves that you will work really hard for something pretty pointless and dumb.. like a diamond. saving that money and putting it in to a college fund will prove MORE to me that you will care for the family we create rather than a diamond ring.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969135 - 08/16/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. But if you can show that you can work hard for a ring, a couple grand isn't a lot. it will show that you can also pay for that college fund.

I would rather have a gold band without a stone imo.

But see i am into gems. I already got a grands wurth of presious stones. Some people like them and some people dont.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969149 - 08/16/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

10 reasons why you should never give or accept a diamond ring.

1. You've Been Psychologically Conditioned To Want a Diamond
The diamond engagement ring is a 63-year-old invention of N.W.Ayer advertising agency. The De Beers diamond cartel contracted N.W.Ayer to create a demand for what are, essentially, useless hunks of rock.

2. Diamonds are Priced Well Above Their Value
The De Beers cartel has systematically held diamond prices at levels far greater than their abundance would generate under anything even remotely resembling perfect competition. All diamonds not already under its control are bought by the cartel, and then the De Beers cartel carefully managed world diamond supply in order to keep prices steadily high.

3. Diamonds Have No Resale or Investment Value
Any diamond that you buy or receive will indeed be yours forever: De Beers’ advertising deliberately brain-washed women not to sell; the steady price is a tool to prevent speculation in diamonds; and no dealer will buy a diamond from you. You can only sell it at a diamond purchasing center or a pawn shop where you will receive a tiny fraction of its original "value."

4. Diamond Miners are Disproportionately Exposed to HIV/AIDS
Many diamond mining camps enforce all-male, no-family rules. Men contract HIV/AIDS from camp sex-workers, while women married to miners have no access to employment, no income outside of their husbands and no bargaining power for negotiating safe sex, and thus are at extremely high risk of contracting HIV.

5. Open-Pit Diamond Mines Pose Environmental Threats
Diamond mines are open pits where salts, heavy minerals, organisms, oil, and chemicals from mining equipment freely leach into ground-water, endangering people in nearby mining camps and villages, as well as downstream plants and animals.

6. Diamond Mine-Owners Violate Indigenous People's Rights
Diamond mines in Australia, Canada, India and many countries in Africa are situated on lands traditionally associated with indigenous peoples. Many of these communities have been displaced, while others remain, often at great cost to their health, livelihoods and traditional cultures.

7. Slave Laborers Cut and Polish Diamonds
More than one-half of the world's diamonds are processed in India where many of the cutters and polishers are bonded child laborers. Bonded children work to pay off the debts of their relatives, often unsuccessfully. When they reach adulthood their debt is passed on to their younger siblings or to their own children.

8. Conflict Diamonds Fund Civil Wars in Africa
There is no reliable way to insure that your diamond was not mined or stolen by government or rebel military forces in order to finance civil conflict. Conflict diamonds are traded either for guns or for cash to pay and feed soldiers.

9. Diamond Wars are Fought Using Child Warriors
Many diamond producing governments and rebel forces use children as soldiers, laborers in military camps, and sex slaves. Child soldiers are given drugs to overcome their fear and reluctance to participate in atrocities.

10. Small Arms Trade is Intimately Related to Diamond Smuggling
Illicit diamonds inflame the clandestine trade of small arms. There are 500 million small arms in the world today which are used to kill 500,000 people annually, the vast majority of whom are non-combatants.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969151 - 08/16/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey no doubt, gems and stones are great, they are beautiful.. i'm not saying they aren't.. i'm just saying that the degree of seriousness women in particular take the whole engagement ring business is ridiculous.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
    #5969157 - 08/16/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i agree with all that Rono. Thats why there are countless other good options for stones for rings.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969161 - 08/16/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I concur...and they all would have a better resale value.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
    #5969190 - 08/16/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

agreed


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969198 - 08/16/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Marry me?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
    #5969204 - 08/16/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

cubic zirconia instead of Diamond...

I dunno, but would you prefer a pewter wedding band or a solid gold one?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5969215 - 08/16/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm more of a silver or platinum kind of guy.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5969219 - 08/16/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

good point. A wedding ring is supposed to have meaning behind it. I see no point putting a lab grown cubic in the place of something that was formed over a million years ago. There is symbolism behind using gold and jewls.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
    #5969224 - 08/16/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

White boys look better with silver or platinum


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5969228 - 08/16/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don't they only take thousands of years? There are so many diamonds in the world, more than gold and platinum combined, it's actually a very common gem, but cutting it and shaping it is what you're paying for, if you think about it. I've seen a pile of diamonds the size of dumptrucks.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5969237 - 08/16/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i don't really like gold... i prolly wouldn't wear the ring on my finger anyway.. i'd stick it on a necklace or something.. i don't like wearing rings. my parents never wore rings, still don't... i dunno... it's just not THAT important to me.. on any grand scheme what so ever.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969242 - 08/16/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Corporal Kielbasa said:
White boys look better with silver or platinum




Good thing, They don't come much whiter than me...


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5969246 - 08/16/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah but most dimonds like any other gem have inclusions and imprefections. Its not easy finding "gem" quality dimonds. Hell diamonds are used in lots of industrial aplicaions. They are one of the hardest minerals on this planet.
Its not easy cutting a diamond.

They take millions of years. They are made from carbon from dead animals and plants and prolly dinasours from way way way way way back in time. or maybe not.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969256 - 08/16/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If i wore a ring i would probably get my finger degloved at work. Nothing like getting your finger skinned alive i tell ya, nothing!


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969258 - 08/16/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

aren't most diamonds being sold these days 'conflict diamonds' ?

what a gesture... spend a huge chunk of money on a gift harvested through hate, opression, by murderers rapists and terrorists. i love you, wifey!


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: kake]
    #5969268 - 08/16/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

probably. Depends on where you buy from though. But still its not hard for a diamond to be labeled falsely.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969284 - 08/16/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

meh, the whole situation just seems ridiculous to me.. there is no reaosn i would ever expect a guy to buy me an expensive ring to signify anything. All i'd want from the guy i would marry is for them to love me and treat me well. If they promise this and do it.. then i'm happy and no ring could make much of a difference.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969292 - 08/16/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thats all very true. You are a good hearted women.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5969313 - 08/16/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thank you


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Aninator]
    #5969335 - 08/16/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

the animinity of this place always bugs me.  But its just one more reason to not act like an ass.  Because you never know when a lady is present  :afro:


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969351 - 08/16/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Without control of the world diamond market, diamonds would be worth less than rubies.

Moreso, fuck diamonds.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: kake]
    #5969358 - 08/16/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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kake said:
aren't most diamonds being sold these days 'conflict diamonds' ?

what a gesture... spend a huge chunk of money on a gift harvested through hate, opression, by murderers rapists and terrorists. i love you, wifey!




Only a very small percentage of diamonds originate in conflict areas.

But I think the entire business reeks.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #5969361 - 08/16/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

See rubies, aquamarine, topaz those are good rocks!


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: kake]
    #5969384 - 08/16/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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kake said:
aren't most diamonds being sold these days 'conflict diamonds'?



No, I don't think most of them are, but the problem is there's almost no way of knowing whether or not the diamond you're buying is a conflict diamond.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969388 - 08/16/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Canadian diamonds have a microscopic image of a Polar Bear on 'em to show that they aren't conflict diamonds, but you may have to pay more for them.

http://www.cachetbykalli.com/


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Rono]
    #5969398 - 08/16/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Clarity, Cut, Carats, Dead Rwandans


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #5969411 - 08/16/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think the whole diamond thing is a lure, in which it implies, hey come with me and you'll be taken care of, but if it doesn't workout you have something that you can aleast hoc for a profit,

so then she reasons well, this is partial insurance in case it doesn't work out, it falls in the same lines as a prenuptial agreement


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #5969414 - 08/16/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly, I sometimes wonder why it's not Africans who are committing terrorism against the West.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: capliberty]
    #5969424 - 08/16/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the whole diamond thing is a lure, in which it implies, hey come with me and you'll be taken care of




Exactly. Perhaps it is a symbol of security. Like it or not, women value security.

While I don't necessarily agree with the practice, buying a diamond is (unfortunately) part of societal courtship. Despite what many say, the vast majority of women prefer a real diamond.

Someone should start a poll: "Guys, would you mind if after you bought a ring, your fiance' gained 300 lbs?".

The correct answer is: "of course not, I married her out of love". The truth however, is usually different.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969452 - 08/16/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Honestly, I sometimes wonder why it's not Africans who are committing terrorism against the West.




The africans are too hungry to pull that shit. I mean, the arabs and iranians are hungry too, but not african hungry.

Besides, the africans only care about dominating eachother.

Join hands for peace!


Also:
The practice of buying diamonds for engagement is a relatively recent development and arguably stems directly from it being created intentionally by DeBeers.

They created value by controlling production, and then created a demand.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969704 - 08/16/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

getting a ring seems silly in the first place. If you place importance on the ring though, dont be a ghetto bitch and get the real deal.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969798 - 08/16/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck diamonds right in the ear.
Well not diamonds themselves.. but fuck the whole stigma of society that comes with them.
The diamond industry is one of the more fucked up industries in practice in modern society. Probably <95% of the US diamonds come from De Beers and we know how ethical they are. A $5 rock becomes a $5,000 rock, to you.. the consumer.. with a bunch of dead africans in its trail.
IMHO any woman who expects a diamond ring to "prove your love" is a materialistic and brainwashed person.
Besides, the dated modern ritual of marriage is fucking broken, considering more than half of the marriages in the US end in divorce. A diamond didn't save their marriage.
Marriages should be based on mutual love, respect, compassion, understanding, trust, and a whole bunch of other shit. But not diamonds.
Sure.. giving a ring with a gemstone as a symbol of union is one thing fine and dandy. But to expect your lover to spend thousands of dollars that most people can't afford... on a worthless shiny rock as some sort of status symbol because it's the 'norm of society' is fucking illogical and retarded. That money could be much better spent, I don't know.. paying the mortgage and grocery bills, or sending your kids to college.

Diamonds would be cool if they were like other precious stones, but they're not because they've been whored by the man.

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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5969820 - 08/16/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't wanna read all the posts, but...

If she's a hippy it probably won't matter as much.

If she's not... then she'll constantly deny the fact that it's not 'real' from her friends. Eventually lying to everyone will eat at her. That bitch.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Shroomism]
    #5969871 - 08/16/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Fuck diamonds right in the ear.
Well not diamonds themselves.. but fuck the whole stigma of society that comes with them.
The diamond industry is one of the more fucked up industries in practice in modern society. Probably <95% of the US diamonds come from De Beers and we know how ethical they are. A $5 rock becomes a $5,000 rock, to you.. the consumer.. with a bunch of dead africans in its trail.
IMHO any woman who expects a diamond ring to "prove your love" is a materialistic and brainwashed person.
Besides, the dated modern ritual of marriage is fucking broken, considering more than half of the marriages in the US end in divorce. A diamond didn't save their marriage.
Marriages should be based on mutual love, respect, compassion, understanding, trust, and a whole bunch of other shit. But not diamonds.
Sure.. giving a ring with a gemstone as a symbol of union is one thing fine and dandy. But to expect your lover to spend thousands of dollars that most people can't afford... on a worthless shiny rock as some sort of status symbol because it's the 'norm of society' is fucking illogical and retarded. That money could be much better spent, I don't know.. paying the mortgage and grocery bills, or sending your kids to college.

Diamonds would be cool if they were like other precious stones, but they're not because they've been whored by the man.

/rant




Totally agree 100%


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Shroomism]
    #5969989 - 08/16/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i know of rocks that go for 20 bucks and they only lasts ten minutes :irdumbtard:


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Maverick]
    #5970035 - 08/16/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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DRTMaverick said:
cubic zirconia instead of Diamond...

I dunno, but would you prefer a pewter wedding band or a solid gold one?




Good answer!
I am not out to be a money grubbing bitch.
As someone said before, as long as they tell
me up front that it is not gold, I wouldn't have
a problem at all. Are you marrying the ring, or
the man?


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Bowers]
    #5970163 - 08/16/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would buy her a cubic zyrconium strap on and let her fuck me in the ass, before I would buy her a diamond.


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: psiclops]
    #5970207 - 08/16/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah get a strap on with a dildo as hard as diamonds, I think you'd derive better longterm pleasure and satisfaction going that route


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Re: Question for the ladies [Re: Silversoul]
    #5970240 - 08/16/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck diamonds and their fucking lab-grown lookalikes.

Give me something else instead. 
Like a rock plucked from a creekbed.
Hell, stick it in a tumbler and make it shiny.  Shiny is gut, ja. 

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