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minnesota find and id request
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alright so i am kinda new at this but have have been out hunting a few times with no results. then i came home from a weekend of camping and there are mushrooms growing in my backyard!

i did my best to document my findings.

here is the overall find:


none of them are all that big but there is alot

habitat: mostly shady grass

gills:dark brown

stem: white thin larger at base

cap: largest about 1/4th an inch light brown mostly domed

sporeprint: pending

brusing: darker brown

location: south central minnesota

i realize that there could be more than one species here but i just cant tell i will post as many pictures as possible but i know it will be hard.

im sorry for the lack of info

more pictures:

















i can also try to answer any questions that you have

thanks!


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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Some of them look like Pans.
Probably Panaeolina foenisecii.
The spore print should help confirm this.
Pan foes have a dark brown spore print.
Other Panaeolus species have a black spore print.
You possibly have some other species in the mix, spore print them all and get back to us, that will help.


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: eris]
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will do!

thanks


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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so i did a really quick spore print last night to see what color it was for an id and here is the pic


its abviously brown...

so if that helps any...


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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Looks dark brown, that suggests foenisecii.

You have to spore print all of them though, as you may have a mixed collection.

It's easy and can be done quick... just lay all of the caps out on a couple pieces of paper.


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: eris]
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Hey guys, I found some shrooms today under my trampoline (of all places) that look extremely close to the ones shown here. I live in northern minnesota and have been looking for a long time and just today I find some. I would like to know what kind of shroom this is as well. Thanks!


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: whitey13]
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Welcome to the shroomery. Please make your own ID request thread after reading the sticky threads, rules, etc at the TOP of the forum. You MUST read them first.

You are hijacking this thread by asking this here. That is not allowed.


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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They look like another brown mushroom to me. I wouldn't eat them.

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: eris]
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I think these are just a bunch of
Panaeolus foensecci , i heard they were mildly halucinogenic in LARGE quantaties, I'm guessing like 60+, uhh eating them all would be a pain i bet. meby make sum tea?

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: PortAngeles]
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yeah im printing all of them.

i also have been reading alot about Panaeolus foenseccii and i am not sure if i want to eat any of them and it looks like i am not going to.

any ideas?


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: eris]
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Eris, I agree. That spore print is a classic P. foenisecii spore print.

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Gumby]
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Hey Thelma, I like your avatar, thats from Requiem yeah?  Awesome movie, I did an essay-report-type-thing on the movie for my Abnormal Psychology class this past semester.  :smile:


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: CureCat]
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yup Requiem for a Dream one of the best movies ever made. its good stuff...

thanks everyone for the id but what is the general thought?

not psycadelic?

i have read most of the artivle here about P. foenisecii but what do you think?


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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Thelma said:
not psycadelic?

i have read most of the artivle here about P. foenisecii but what do you think?


Nope, not at all. If you're refering to the article that says P. foenisecii is active, thats an old article and their identification techniques were flawed. They actually had active Panaeolus mushrooms in that study. Subsequent studies have shown that actual P. foenisecii are not active at all.

If that article is hosted on this site, will you give me the URL? It needs to be deleted because all it does is cause headache for us in the hunting forum.

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Thelma]
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Panaeolus foenisecii is inactive, despite what the literature and rumour may have.  The confusion was over a chemical analysis that found small amounts of psilocybin in this common lawn mushroom, but it is not a legitimate study because it was later declared that the mushrooms thought to be Panaeolus foenisecii had been misidentified and was in fact the active and nearly indistinguishable Panaeolus subbalteatus. 

You will know from a spore print.  I stole this from another member on the board- it is a wonderful guide picture!  I tried searching for the pic so I could remember who to give credit to, but I couldn't find them , so speak up if it's yours and thanks for the great photo!  :grin:



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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: CureCat]
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I made that pic probably a year or two ago. I'm glad I made it, I've seen it used a ton :smile:

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: CureCat]
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yep that is the esact same as the spore prints that i just got

here is the url: Observations Regarding the Suspected Psychoactivity of Panaeolina Foenisecci Maire

and it rained last night and i just looked and there is more!

its amazing what an every day lawn can do!

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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: CureCat]
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I also added a link to Gumby's guide to picking Panaeolus subbalteatus in the rules and guidelines thread.
That picture is included in the guide along with a lot of great info.
You should check it out of you have not seen it.


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
Thelma said:
not psycadelic?

i have read most of the artivle here about P. foenisecii but what do you think?


Nope, not at all. If you're refering to the article that says P. foenisecii is active, thats an old article and their identification techniques were flawed. They actually had active Panaeolus mushrooms in that study. Subsequent studies have shown that actual P. foenisecii are not active at all.

If that article is hosted on this site, will you give me the URL? It needs to be deleted because all it does is cause headache for us in the hunting forum.


Is there any way that someone can give me the proper references for this article or URL as Id love to see it if I already havent (not the Allen article).....and if someones so motivated a SPECIFIC reference PROVING misidentification or skewed science .......or the references for the articles where this has been alledged ?

There you can choose any from the Allen article......there I wont be holding my breath......

And you also want to be sure that some of those pictured in the grass are not deadly Conocybes by printing all as suggested...

EDIT: YOU definately have several Panaeolina foenisecii in the pictures there....


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Re: minnesota find and id request [Re: shroominDole]
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Why does this always have to turn into a long debate, can't this foenisecii thing be put to rest already? It has been going on in this forum for years...


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