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Salvia is awesome...
    #5757827 - 06/16/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Dunno if i broke through, i smoked a lot.  Like 4 small hits to test the water, then two big ones back to back.  It was 10x extract with a Bic lighter in a water pipe.  I did it maybe 20 mins ago... maybe 30.  It was my first time smoking Salvia.

EDIT: Looking at the container, it looks like i smoked a little more than half a gram.

Anyway, everything kept folding in on itself, it was insane.  It was ubelievable to me how everything could continue to fold in on itself, everything was made of something else.  At one point i looked at my bookshelf and thought it was made of millions of billions of little men and women who are holding up planks of wood.  Everyone stands in certain spots and holds up a piece of the puzzle. 

Then, it zoomed in even closer, to the little people's world, and everything there was made up of more little men and women who are holding up a peice of the puzzle.  I imagined it like those letters people hold up at sports games, while in the crowd.  They spell something out, or make up a picture.  It was like that, over and over again. 

I remember especially, after zooming into the bookshelf, that i saw this boy walking on a driveway, and it zoomed in on his shoe, and my room was one of the little cells in his shoe, then it zoomed out and i saw lots and lots of people and rooms in his shoe.  At this point i said audibly something like "i can't believe how many worlds there are, it just keeps going" - something to that effect.

:smile:  Not sure if i broke through, i felt like i could maybe go a bit deeper and will try it again maybe later this week.  Only thing that makes me think i didn't break through is the fact that i wasn't terrified like in most of the trip reports i have read.

Oh yeah, and i couldn't tell which was was up or down at all, gravity wasn't an issue.  After the initial pulling down towards my couch, i layed down (obviously), and then i just wasn't a part of this world at all, including the feelings of gravity.  I just didn't feel like i was in this world at all, i was in some kind of strange eternity-hole.

It just seems so uncharacteristic of everything i have read about Salvia.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the friend who was with me said my face was very red.  When i came out of it and realized i was laying on a couch, i felt that my legs were really hot in my jeans.


Edited by avapxia (06/16/06 04:17 PM)


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: avapxia]
    #5758193 - 06/16/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:laugh:


Cool!


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: Gomp]
    #5758230 - 06/16/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

haha nice! it seems you got a really nice trip of it.

and if breaking through means being terrified, then why would you even want to? :P because salvia doesnt just scare you.. more like it grabs you by the soul and screams debilitating dread


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: covert]
    #5758487 - 06/16/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Haha, yeah.

Well i am very glad that i decided to give it a try, and i look forward to my next trip!


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: avapxia]
    #5760960 - 06/17/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Tripped again today, i won't explain the whole experience. It was a lot different, but still very cool and eye opening. I can see why a lot of people don't like this plant, it is definitely fierce at times. You can't just tell yourself "remember, it is only a drug" right before you begin and expect that to keep you in the clear. You have to recognize how detached you really are from your own mind, that the mind is a tool - not an identity. You have to recognize that, even in your sober life, before expecting to be able to not freak out.

[15:32] Meliorative: whats cool about salvia is 30 mins later you are totally normal
[15:32] Princeps - (8) Soulmates never die (8): Yeah.
[15:32] Meliorative: first hit is basically like being as stoned as you have ever been in your life
[15:32] Meliorative: 2nd hit you feel like you can't even move because you feel so heavy
[15:32] Princeps - (8) Soulmates never die (8): Hmm.
[15:32] Princeps - (8) Soulmates never die (8): That's potent shit.
[15:33] Meliorative: 3rd hit things start to happen, everything turns into water, you see and hear people
[15:33] Meliorative: and if someone real is talking to you, it sounds like "blah ghet deh breadie wert"
[15:33] Meliorative: small sounds become deafening, roaring
[15:33] Meliorative: 4th hit you are basically passed out on the couch
[15:33] Princeps - (8) Soulmates never die (8): Weird.
[15:34] Meliorative: can't even think to pick up a bong, don't even really remember living prior to that moment
[15:34] Meliorative: lol
[15:34] Meliorative: it is so sweet

EDIT: What i am talking about here is the following trip (next post).


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: avapxia]
    #5761756 - 06/17/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, i wrote up a report about today's trip.

I tripped again tonight, and only after this trip did i remember some things about yesterdays trip.

My friend was talking as i was taking hits (even though i requested silence). His words just sounded like "jed burst freget baerd meet dyeamer" - total jibberish. At this point i audibly said "you talk too much", feeling pressed to do it and also feeling frustrated, almost.

This whole time while he was talking, there were two people in the room. One man, and one woman, both in their late 50's. They seemed very familiar to me, almost like old friends or something, so much so that i didn't even think it was strange that they were in my apartment (i didn't even think to mention it to my friend, it seemed normal and real). They were kind of talking to each other (unintelligable), and then turned their attention to me and kept saying "hurry up, we have to go, hurry, hurry!" It was never said, but they were implying that i needed to take one more hit.

Well, then i took my last hit and didn't really remember anything at all before that moment. It was almost as if my life had just started.

The lesson began immediately with no talking. I saw and felt my memories, my future projections, my hobbies, etc. All of it was smashed into a box and then it zoomed out so i could take a look at the larger picture. There were countless boxes all doing a slow orbit, i assume that they were other people's boxes.

The feeling i was getting at this point was that of a pig thrown into a cage and tossed on the back of a truck, driving to the slaughter house. It was not scary at all, because already i know that those things (ego) are not me, i don't draw my identity from that.

It was a faster trip than last night, maybe 2-3 minutes as opposed to 7. I intentionally didn't trip as hard.

The thing that tonight made me remember about last night was that familiar feeling. Although i didn't have auditory hallucinations yesterday (and clearly did today), the feeling of old friendship, of a trusted guide, was definitely there. Yesterday, before my last hit, i even said to my friend "don't worry, they'll take care of me" - i had the same feeling of inclination, like i just had to say it, similar to the thing i said today ("you talk too much").

I didn't get a good look at the woman's face, she was in my kitchen. She was talking from the kitchen into the living room, but the man was right next to me.


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: avapxia]
    #5763426 - 06/18/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

via such eposodes in a magical realm
does magic return to england.


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: avapxia]
    #5764766 - 06/18/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you're right. "breaking through" is not necessarily accompanied by fear. everything feels familiar indeed, yet it is so fleeting... much more so than other psychedelics. my curiosity keeps me going back. you definitely got more out of your first experiences than i did. it took me a few times to understand where you're coming from. i've found the quid method to be better for getting acquainted with what the plant has to offer though.


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: palmersc]
    #5765159 - 06/18/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

your trip report with the boxes of hobbies and identites was similar to mine.

what do you draw your identitly from?


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Re: Salvia is awesome... [Re: freezepooter]
    #5767578 - 06/19/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Very nice experience. Obviously you "get it". Good for you! :smile:


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