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Psilocybe mushroom question
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Some one had once told me that all Psilocybe mushrooms have a transparent pellicule or transparent skin that can be pealed from there cap. And I do know that alot mushrooms have a pealable skin. So I guise the question is whether the term pellicule is used for the skin that peals from the mushroom or is a pellicule only when the skin is transparent?

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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A separable gelatinous pellicule is usually transparent. It always is in the case of Psilocybes, at least. I believe Ps. cubensis is the only psilocybe without a pellicule. All of the "brown capped" psilocybes have pellicules.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
A separable gelatinous pellicule is usually transparent. It always is in the case of Psilocybes, at least.


Not to get too crazy about what a pellicule is. But from what your saying is that a pellicule isn't always transparent, right?

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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Every time I've seen one it *has* been transparent.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: Gumby]
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K, thanks for the help man... BTW that green thing that you have for your picture scares me. Imagine coming acrost one of those in the wiled. I would turn in the opposite direction and run like hell!

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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yeah it scared the hell outa me first time i saw it....it still scares me....if i saw one in the wild, i would scream and die before it could kill me itself.


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[quote]Gumby said:
And if you are going to waste peoples time with your stupid questions, at least try to have grammar skills higher then that of a 7th grader.

READ DAMNIT! [/quote]

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: nobhdy]
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For all I know the thing looks like it would chase you down and rape you to death.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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I think that green thing might be the spirit of the forest, from the anime movie "Princess Mononoke". I dont like anime at all, but that was an awesome movie. Gumby is it the tree spirit thing? I remember it had a tall neck like that.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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Some of the psilocybes have them, but they are not easy to peel.

I've seen a few species that I could clearly tear the layer off. It was like a removable coating. Others have the layer, but it won't easily peel off.


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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: eris]
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I ges your supposed to take some tweezers and grab ahold of the outer rim of the cap pulling up. Then if there is any pellicule starting peal of with it then you will know that its possibly psilocybe.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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Other genera also have pellicules, but it's an easy field test to distinguish Psilocybe from Psathyrella, both of which drop purple spores.

As eris mentioned, sometimes it can be very difficult to peel a pellicule on a given mushroom.

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: shroomydan]
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Look! ,you guys are fuken my shit up! I now understand that Psathyrella do not what so ever have pellicules.. Now you say that one has a pellicule with purple spores and the other doesn't have have a pellicule with purple spores! You guys never even told me what the difference between a transparent skin and a pellicule is!!! Is the difference between the "Skin" been trans parent a pellicule, or is the damn skin of the mushrooms cap called a pellicule regardless???!!?!?!?!?????!??!????

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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Quote:
the damn skin of the mushrooms cap [is] called a pellicule regardless


:grin:

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: shroomydan]
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It is almost like circucision without the knife. Or better yet like a condom. The pellicule will seperate from the top of the cap leaving the mushroom looking much the same as it initially did expect that it will lack the glossy texture.

mohelim!


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I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur.

俺のシロシャイビケッルリプスがここです。

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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IT is a mucous membrane that you are looking for. It appears on some Psilocybe mushrooms and others inteh genera do not have it. It is just one of sceveral characteristics in the genus Psilocybe. Other families may also have a sticky pellicle.

Liberty caps is one but they grow in the late summer to the freeze in the fall depending on the weather and where you are located at.

Other characteristics of the genera are easir to identify than a sticky pellicle.

Read the how to identify mushrooms int he Shroomery's Ultimate Shroom Guide listed int eh sticky at the top of the forums page heee int he mushroom hunting section which asks viewers to read it.

mj

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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DaveTX said:
Look! ,you guys are fuken my shit up!  I now understand that Psathyrella do not what so ever have pellicules..  Now you say that one has a pellicule with purple spores and the other doesn't have have a pellicule with purple spores!  You guys never even told me what the difference between a transparent skin and a pellicule is!!!  Is the difference between the "Skin" been trans parent a pellicule, or is the damn skin of the mushrooms cap called a pellicule regardless???!!?!?!?!?????!??!????


Yup, mycology's some tough shit.  :rolleyes: :bendoverrover:

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
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Ok, I got it, thanks for the help guys. :smile:

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Re: Psilocybe mushroom question [Re: DaveTX]
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Spelling is important in this game. :foreheadslap:


I had earlier referred to the skin covering the caps of some Psilocybes as a "pellicule" it is in fact spelled    "pellicle" .

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