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Bulk FAE
    #5609224 - 05/09/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well my first bulk spawn run is still going strong. It is 5lbs of the stud in about 1 1/2 square foot rubber maid at around 3 inches deep.

My question is once it is colonized and cased i am going to put a few poly fill stuffed holes in the bottom. If i do this and run a dual aquarium pump i used for my first pf fruiting chamber into 2 sides of the top of the tub, will that push enough co2 out of the bottom so that I would not have to fan? I have a dual pump and a single pump, so i could use both if needed.

I am just wanting an automated mono tub. anyone know if the pumps would push in enough fresh air and would i need to stuff the ends of my tubes with poly fill or just let them blow in room air?

Also, can you achieve really good results with a straight vermiculite casing? I have never cased before and don't want to take any chances with my casing layer contaminating or not being at the right moisture content so i was going to go with straight verm. I know it will cause bigger holes where you pick the mushies from, but can you get a good of yield with straight verm as you could with coco or peat?

And my last question is i am going to spawn this tub to a large outdoor bed when it is done. I know alot of store bought manure does not work well inside, but will store bought brands work better outside? I plan on getting my manure and straw from the co-op because i know neither has any additives. I was told to spawn this tub to 60 pounds of manure outside, would that be 60 pounds before or after hydration?

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Re: Bulk FAE [Re: krnfan145970]
    #5609375 - 05/09/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Bulk FAE [Re: krnfan145970]
    #5609397 - 05/09/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I suggest a double tub tek for you, no fuss or muss.

Straight Verm will work, but not nearly as well, we all use the 50/50+ (I add 10% coir to it) for a reason.

P. Cubensis don't grow very well outside unless you are living in the south where it is balmy, and if you do transfer to outside; don't worry about ratios, find youself a good outside tek and follow it. You'll want to layer substrate with straw and poo, the best poo you can get. That means not in a bag and not from a cow or whatever.

Lower your expectations and take it slow. Don't be afraid to fail, and do not do things on your own accord.

Learn from others here and do exactly as they tell you to. After such you will have your own wisdom and you can adapt techniques to your environment.


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Re: Bulk FAE [Re: monstermitch]
    #5609429 - 05/09/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i've heard of folks who lay wax paper down over the colonized poo instead of a casing layer, then pull it up when the pins form and they have great success.  seems like a real easy way to do it.  never done so myself to give you my personal endorsement but just an idea for you to search out.

about the monotub, the whole point of it is to be pretty much maintenence free... don't even need that noisy pump going.  polyfilled holes around the edges at the level of the top of your substrate, as well as some on top should do the trick.  the CO2 can escape through the lower holes, and as it does it slowly pulls in fresh air from above keeping your CO2 levels down enough so that you don't need to fan or come up with any sorts of FAE gizmos.  polyfill keeps the air clean and holds your humidity in.  poke around in the grow logs and see how people did their monotubs, i'd say make your holes just like you see in a successful grow log's pictures :smile:


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Re: Bulk FAE [Re: monstermitch]
    #5609444 - 05/09/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i have already spawned the mono tub. ive read of both and i chose to go with a monotub. I do listen to what others tell me that is why i am asking them. i have used poo from the co-op before outside and it ran very very well, but a buddy of mine over watered it one day and it went from 8 inches dep to about 3 inches deep. I just need my questions answered about the aquarium pumps. if they wont work i can fan. if they will work i would rather do that.

What do you mean lower my expectations? I have read cubes dont even need a casing layer to fruit and fruit well. I know some experinced members have said straight verm. works great.

And it looks like i have been listening to others for longer than you have. no offense.

I also live in arkansas, so i know growing outside will not pose a bit of a problem.


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