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Bulk, hmm.
    #1396807 - 03/21/03 03:38 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I have recently decided that I want to have a go at some poo/straw substrate, I have an aquarium that is 3' x 1' and I was wondering, is this a bit big? I was going to colonize the substrate in a rubbermaid style container and then chuck it into the aquarium so I have a nice deep layer, fruit from that and case on the second flush.  Is 3' x 1' risking contams due to size? Hmm, I guess it could even be 4' long, I cant remember and I dont have it right now but anyway.  Also, how would I go about pasteurizing it all, I have looked through the FAQ and the various teks but havn't found a suitable method.  Thanks in advance for any help. :smile: 


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Jaxx]
    #1396819 - 03/21/03 03:45 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Jaxx]
    #1396825 - 03/21/03 03:48 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

To pastuerize... put the straw and shit into a pillow case.. submerge in water with a weight on top at 170F for one hour.. pull the pillow case out and use your oven rack on top of the sink.. put it on that and let it drain for several hours.

Your container should be fine


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1396834 - 03/21/03 03:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the help, and quick response, both of you.  I read somewhere something about water sucking nutrients out, is this true or am I just diluded? :laugh: 

EDIT: Oh, and do I just mix the straw in before pasteurizing or do I pasteurize that separately?


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1396835 - 03/21/03 03:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

quick tip:

When you remove it from the water, give it a squeeze, as hard as you can.

than fluff it up and then leave on the rack to drain/dry out a bit more.

You can make them as big as you want, just be clean.


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Jaxx]
    #1396857 - 03/21/03 04:11 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Water does not suck the nutrients out.. if it does.. it's minimal..
Most of the water that is drained off is full of dirt and stuff that was in the straw.. I'm sure some nutrients get drained away but it doesn't matter. This is pastuerization.

As Poop said give it a good squeeze after you pull it out of the water.

You can patuerize the straw and dung at the same time, or separately, it doesn't matter.. whichever is more convenient for you.


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1396865 - 03/21/03 04:13 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Tip 2: pasteu them together so that the poop juice gets into your straw!!! mmmmm



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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: PooPs]
    #1396869 - 03/21/03 04:15 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Gotta love shit stew


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1396905 - 03/21/03 04:27 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Lolz, thanks for your help, I have my idea in my head in full now.  Greatly appreciated. :laugh:


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1397058 - 03/21/03 05:25 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Anno]
    #1397237 - 03/21/03 06:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Sweet :laugh: 


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Anno]
    #1397319 - 03/21/03 06:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It'd be good to add a few things to the Bulk FAQ so people can have all the resources in the FAQ and not go looking around.. such as

What does the bulk process involve?

After pastuerizing your substrate, and letting it drain and cool to room temperature, dump the substrate into your fruiting container (A rubbermaid or box lined with plastic works fine..just make sure it's tall enough to hold the substrate and allow for fruiting mushrooms!) Take your spawn and mix well with the straw/dung. Compress the substrate down with your hands as best as possible... a good depth for bulk is 4-6 inches deep after compression. Then you would take a piece of plastic sheeting, and put many small holes all over it. Put the sheeting over the bulk substrate and try to tuck it into the sides as best as possible. Cover the bin with the lid or a plastic sheet, and don't allow any light in. Incubate at 70-80 degrees (room temperature) for a week or so. Make sure to check in a few days for mycelium growth and make sure it doesn't get too hot. Bulk substrate produces it's own heat while colonizing so no outside heat source is needed unless the room is very cold.

The substrate should be fully colonized in a week to two weeks, from there you can cover with your favorite casing layer, and incubate again for a few days until the mycelium is poking through about 30%-50% of the casing surface. Then begin the light/humidity/air exchange cycle.

* A tip for compressing straw-based substrates is to lay a flat material with many holes in it (such as a flourescent light grid) on top of the plastic while it is colonizing, and laying a brick or several books on top of it. This will cause the substrate to compress and thereby colonize at a faster rate. You would remove this weight once it is fully colonized.

* For air exchange and humidity all that is needed is a daily or bi-daily misting and fanning. Simply take off the lid and give it a good misting with water, and fan the bin with the lid for a good 10 seconds. Bulk substrates will humidify the container by themselves, so no other humidity source is needed besides a daily spraying.

* Another helpful tip is to cut a hole in the side of your container, above the substrate, and tape a filter disc over it. This allows for Co2 to escape while you are not fanning. During spawn run you would cover the filter with a piece of duct tape or something similar.

* You may also drill several SMALL holes in the bottom of your bin, to allow for excess moisture to escape, and this will also achieve the effect of releasing Co2. Make sure that water has a place to collect and your fruiting container is raised so the water does not just pool at the bottom.


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1397407 - 03/21/03 07:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I was just wondering if there is a problem transfering the substrate from the rubbermaid, straight into the bottom of the aquarium for fruiting.  I dont see why this would be a problem but I dont have any experience. :laugh:


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Re: Bulk, hmm. [Re: Jaxx]
    #1397502 - 03/21/03 07:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I found that as long as the straw is cut nice and small Ie: 1 inch pieces,,,

You don't need to compress the bed, it will pack down properly by itself.

If you leave the straw uncut, it wants to poke out all over tha place and this creates air pockets.. and problems. so at this point you need the grid thing........

I know it's a pain in the ass to cut that straw small, but worth the trouble in my opinion.


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