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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Why have public executions been so well-attended throughout the ages then?


Our ghoulish side.

But one thing you got to realize: fucked-upness. The more fucked up a community is, the more people want to attend a public execution.

Personal unhappyness is a big factor too. Would you rather witness someone being put on the electric chair, or going out on a date with the girl of your dreams?

But yes, I think that most people here who'd want to witness a lynching are not as happy as they should be, and in part society is responsible for that.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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i agree. ppl love to watch suffering and death. why do you think ppl slow down and rubber neck when they come on an accident? I know a lot of ppl who wanted to go to Afganistan so they could kill ppl or at least get the chance to. i donno if the army would take them...i think talking about doing it and doing are way different things. you get used to death after awhile. i mean look you guys are american..the good old west was full of hanging, death, murder, gun play. look at you guys now! ppl are killed by guns ect every day. i think killing each other is a normal human thing. its disturbing and disgusting but its pretty well what we've been doing since the begining. religion be damned!


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
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Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute. If the guy was black I wouldn't go. If the guy was any other race I would. People looove calling other people racist.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RedNucleus]
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If the lynchee was a middle-aged white guy in a nice suit I'd be there in a second!

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:
Well, atleast I hope that you are aware of your western social conditioning and that your aversions, phobias, and manias are not truly your own, but learned behaviour.


No Psilocyberin, it is not the same.
All higher lifeforms that are social animals get stressed when individuals from their enviroment meet with a horrible death.

90% of soldiers avoids killing at all cost.

Aversion to torturous death is not the same as spider phobia. It is not acquired behavior but rather it is an inborn instinct, and when it is severely detoriorated or eradicated altogether such a person is labeled a sociopath/psychopath, a personality structual disorder.

Unless you are one of the latter, witnessing a lynching is traumatic to some extent.

Aversion to torturous death isn't a feature of western culture, it is at the heart of what makes us human, and psychologically healthy social animals.


tell that to the thousands of registered members of ogrish.com

defining what is normal behaviour or falsly leblling social conditioned responses as "instinct" is no way to go about defending your point.

I guess Wartime photographers are "sick twisted fucks" for capturing mass graves or land mine victims. Oh but wait, that is different somehow, right?

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:
Why have public executions been so well-attended throughout the ages then?


Our ghoulish side.

But one thing you got to realize: fucked-upness. The more fucked up a community is, the more people want to attend a public execution.

Personal unhappyness is a big factor too. Would you rather witness someone being put on the electric chair, or going out on a date with the girl of your dreams?

But yes, I think that most people here who'd want to witness a lynching are not as happy as they should be, and in part society is responsible for that.


sorry, but this makes no sense. I think I have seen almost every single one of you have some sort of "help, im depressed" type thread in mental and physical health forum.

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
I would attend and try my best to stop the lynching. I might even have to kill several rednecks.


i'd get on a hill with a giant slingshot and a few dozen molotavs


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No, says the man in Washington; it belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow; it belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose...
Rapture.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RedNucleus]
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RedNucleus said:
Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute. If the guy was black I wouldn't go. If the guy was any other race I would. People looove calling other people racist.


i dont get it


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: eligal]
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because that would be a hate crime.....i dont get it either.

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: ClammyJoe]
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TheMadConductor said:
Cybrbeast you how can call someone sick for wanting to live in reality? I would have liked to see the Nazi camps and witness the horrible things there, not to say I wouldn't be emotionally destroyed by what I saw, I would however like to see human nature being worked out.


Ok, would you want to see a 4 year old girl being raped by a group of filthy old men because it's reality? You couldn't stop it, because they are a group. You could only watch it or go away. You choose.

I must admit though that I am fascinated with some shocking videos on the net. But when it's involving torture or useless death I feel horrible inside and wouldn't have want to watch it. Like the killings in Rwanda or the Iraqi torture videos or kitten stomping videos etc. Some things should be shown to let people see how horrible a situation is, like the videos from vietnam. But that serves a purpose, just watching sick act because it's 'art' or whatever is a bit psychopathic if you ask me. But to each his own.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
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You mean you couldn't try to stop it? I think your black or white view on the issue is absurd.

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Redstorm]
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Just like the lynching, you would be beaten to a pulp if you tried. But ofcourse you could try.
Black and White? I'm just trying to put it into perspective.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
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If it was say....a child molester or rapist being strung up sure I would go and see that he got what was coming to him. If it was someone who shot a poor innocent man or woman to steal their car or something of that nature once again sure I'd go. If it was something along the lines of one drug dealer shooting another then no, I would not go. The punishment should fit the crime. If you truly deserve to be killed, in my eyes naturally, then I wouldn't mind at all watching. I am an incredibly happy person and have no depression issues whatsoever but put me on the street and tell me either you put a bullet in this child molestors head or he walks free, I'd have no hesitation.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
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i voted "i'd stay home and urge people not to go, too"

just because one man got violent doesn't mean that i have to put myself down to that level... and for all of you who would have gone there to "watch"...

Quote:
[Eye on / I own] the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be

Like:
"Killed by the husband"
"Drowned by the ocean"
"Shot by his own son"
"She used the poison in his tea
[and / he] kissed [him / her] goodbye"
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til someone dies

Don't look me at like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother, holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky cryin,
"Why, oh why?"

Cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
You all need it too - don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'
Neither the brave nor bold
Will write us the story so
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'

I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance
Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain fallin' down
[Drown on grave and ground / ?? grave ??]

Part vampire
Part warrior
Carnivore and voyeur
Still have the
[transmittal, sing / transmitter, sing / trance, mental sync]
to the death rattle

La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie (x4)

[Incredulous / Credulous] at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out
[Your head please / ??] and give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.



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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: eligal]
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Well if it was a black person, then anyone who knew I was there could label me racist. Otherwise it wouldn't label me racist.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RedNucleus]
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There is a difference between media slanted hype and witnessing humanity in person.

All to often we associate "bad" with events that make us feel gross, disturbed or sad. i think this is taking the myriad of human experience and emotions for granted.
Sure, be grossed out, or sickened, but see that interaction and immense feeling as a beautiful part of existence. trying to say that smelling a rose is more human or normal than watching a 4 year old girl get gang raped is being judgemental and claiming that their is a universal norm as well as a default perception of the universe.

Why do we always have to categorize things into such small compartments that we eventually censor ourselves from certain parts of reality? When you isolate yourself and ignore parts of reality, you are living in a fantasy world.
Also, events, things, phenomenon, just ARE, they IS, and being unable to appreciate the sick and twisted, the deranged, the scary and mentally haunting just shows a lack of personal control over your own thoughts and reactions.

We have been conditioned to be repulsed and dislike the feeling of repulsion.

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
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are you talking to me? because i didn't say any of that.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: RedNucleus]
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no

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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Quote:
. trying to say that smelling a rose is more human or normal than watching a 4 year old girl get gang raped is being judgemental and claiming that their is a universal norm as well as a default perception of the universe.



Like migrating birds and flocking sheep, humans have got default settings that are present at birth.


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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
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yeah, like knowing to suck the tit, not whether or not what is happening is bad, or that what they feel is "icky".

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