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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5550531 - 04/24/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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psilocyberin said: yeah, like knowing to suck the tit, not whether or not what is happening is bad, or that what they feel is "icky".
People are programmed to find the smell of poo, vomit and decaying or burning flesh repulsive. This is because these things are usually bad for a person and that's why we hate the smells so mych.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5550687 - 04/24/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think you have your cause and effect backwards. We dont naturally hate the smells from instinct, it is because from previous experiences we equate those sights and smells with feeling sick or such and we automatically place negative labels on them.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551188 - 04/24/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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psilocyberin said: I would have brought sketch artists to record the entire thing! I find gross displays of mass gatherings, especially based on righteousness, to be one of the most amazing displays of art and humanity.
1) If you felt compelled to stop "this atrocity", then you are no better than the self-righteous mob. Just as they had interferred in the lives of others, you would have as well. 2) if you wished to not be a part of it, or it was too much reality for you, then the best choice would have been to stay home. 3) I think first hand experience of that would be a very enlightening event that even Emile Durkheim would have loved to witness.
yeah ok bro. You may have 'interfered' with the people's lives, but you wouldn't physically torture them. There's a bit of a difference in the degree of interference here.
That remarks makes me think... you're one of those guys that thinks they're so clever and brilliant they can argue any point and make sense.
The logic you employed in that post was simply quite fucking ridiculously stupid. So you might not be any 'better' --by stopping the lynching--but you're certainly a lot less 'worse.'
Furthermore, if Emile Durkheim were to go to this event, I doubt he would be jumping up and down, and instead would probably be taking mental notes whilst in a state of social disgust.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551256 - 04/24/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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psilocyberin said: I think you have your cause and effect backwards. We dont naturally hate the smells from instinct, it is because from previous experiences we equate those sights and smells with feeling sick or such and we automatically place negative labels on them.
Do you have some reference to back this claim up?
I do believe the first time I smelled shit I found it unpleasant because it was unpleasant, not because I thought about sickness when I smelled it.
You're just full of questionable comments on this post, aren't you?
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Herbus]
#5551284 - 04/24/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I found this source to back up my claim: http://museum.utep.edu/archive/biology/DDbadsmells.htm
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What's that horrible smell? Ick?something dead! Why do things smell bad; why doesn't a sewer smell like rose blossoms, or a least like something that doesn't make your stomach turn over? The likely answer, as so often is the case, is natural selection. Remember, it's our brains that assign pleasure or distaste to a smell, which is why dog brains don't treat odors the same way as ours. Mostly, things that smell bad to us are things that would harm us if we ate them; way back when, individuals who found such odors attractive didn't live to pass on their genes.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551308 - 04/24/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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tell that to the thousands of registered members of ogrish.com
defining what is normal behaviour or falsly leblling social conditioned responses as "instinct" is no way to go about defending your point.
I guess Wartime photographers are "sick twisted fucks" for capturing mass graves or land mine victims. Oh but wait, that is different somehow, right?
I have gone to ogrish and seen those videos, I've watched them several times with friends...
Does that mean I thrive on it? No, I think it's mostly curiousity invoked by constantly seeing images of violence and war on TV and what not, coupled with a curiousness of what it 'really' looks like. Every time I always feel sorry for the people/person getting it, though. If you're loving this shit there's probably something wrong with you. If anything, 'conditioning' in a bad sense is what leads to this behaviors, and not vice versa.
Consider the billions of people NOT registered to Ogrish.com
I'm starting to think you've had a little too much solitude and time to 'think.' Perhaps because of your abilities in articulation you might carry on riding your high-horse thinking you've got it figured out... without anyone having successfully told you otherwise thus far.
I don't know man, you've got a really weird way of looking at things, and although I can't say it's "bad" or "good" it would definitely seem less applicable to the world-at-large.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5551318 - 04/24/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: Well I found this source to back up my claim: http://museum.utep.edu/archive/biology/DDbadsmells.htm
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What's that horrible smell? Ick?something dead! Why do things smell bad; why doesn't a sewer smell like rose blossoms, or a least like something that doesn't make your stomach turn over? The likely answer, as so often is the case, is natural selection. Remember, it's our brains that assign pleasure or distaste to a smell, which is why dog brains don't treat odors the same way as ours. Mostly, things that smell bad to us are things that would harm us if we ate them; way back when, individuals who found such odors attractive didn't live to pass on their genes.
Should basically be common sense.
Unless you think everything is "programmed." Maybe common sense is programmed... AH YOU'RE ALL PROGRAMMED. Psilocyberin come back and post, I've basically been borderline flaming you and I know you wish to return the favor.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5551895 - 04/24/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: Well I found this source to back up my claim: http://museum.utep.edu/archive/biology/DDbadsmells.htm
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What's that horrible smell? Ick?something dead! Why do things smell bad; why doesn't a sewer smell like rose blossoms, or a least like something that doesn't make your stomach turn over? The likely answer, as so often is the case, is natural selection. Remember, it's our brains that assign pleasure or distaste to a smell, which is why dog brains don't treat odors the same way as ours. Mostly, things that smell bad to us are things that would harm us if we ate them; way back when, individuals who found such odors attractive didn't live to pass on their genes.
Im almost positive that there is no possible way to have a fully controlled scientific study done on this.
IOW, unless you could have an infant that has yet to smell something like the inside of a dirty vagina, or its own shit, fill out a questionaire. This study is mere speculation, and while it is a sound THEORY it sure as hell is no more valid than mine.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Herbus]
#5551920 - 04/24/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Herbus, I couldnt care less if you flame me directly or indirectly, I have never once hit notify mod/post button and dont intend to.
Yeah, you probably are right about the argumentative side of me, but not with this topic. I have taken this stance many times in threads. It ties in my entire life philosophy: that being aware of and abolishing conditioned responses is the first step to personal enlightenment.
Im not saying I can enjoy every single aspect of existence, but I try to atleast find the beauty in scat porn, the beauty in rabid hatred, the beauty in deformed retards and the beauty in people calling me an asshole.
Taking everything so seriously is ridiculous. Life is funny. Life just IS, and your opinions of it can only get in the way of true perceptual hedonistic revelry. Many of you want to call me sick for watching acts of torture, but I think you are deranged for self censorship and not being able to find some sort of beauty or enjoyment in a socially deemed "vile act".
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551926 - 04/24/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think it can be easily verified by looking at the facial reaction of a baby. Have you ever seen a baby that didn't like something? It's the same with bitter things, because toxic things usually taste bitter. Baby's will spit it out.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5551965 - 04/24/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: I think it can be easily verified by looking at the facial reaction of a baby. Have you ever seen a baby that didn't like something? It's the same with bitter things, because toxic things usually taste bitter. Baby's will spit it out.
you mean like....
which is obviously the only possible reaction to the instinctual repulsion to the odors of feces. Babies facial expressions are either screaming or bewilderment. Think about a conditioning which almost everyone has received: the uncomfortable feeling of shit in your diaper. When there is shit in your own diaper, do you suppose you could also smell it? and when a baby cries do you suppose it is because of the uncomfortable feeling or because of the smell of shit?
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551974 - 04/24/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why would poo in your diaper be an uncomfortable feeling. It's nice warm and gooey. How could an 'unconditioned' baby know that as an uncomfortable feeling?
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5551980 - 04/24/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also.... "discernment through facial expressions" is no real basis for an argument.....
on a side note: lynching ---> the facial expressions on babies faces when shit is present.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5552011 - 04/24/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK fine, you know everything. This conversation is going nowhere. Maybe you should move to Iran or Saudi-Arabia, then you could watch some public executions. Maybe even a stoning if you're lucky.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5552017 - 04/24/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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feeling pain and being uncomfortable are proven instinctual perceptions. Pain feels like pain. A sunburn is uncomfortable... just like shit in your diaper.... there is no real judgement on it.
Take the first liquor you got sick from..... do you feel naseuated when you smell, or even think about the smell?
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5552029 - 04/24/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: OK fine, you know everything. This conversation is going nowhere. Maybe you should move to Iran or Saudi-Arabia, then you could watch some public executions. Maybe even a stoning if you're lucky.
believe me, America is a much dirtier microscope slide than any other country when it comes to observable repulsion.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5552043 - 04/24/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heh philisophical banter in the pub...
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5552067 - 04/24/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: OK fine, you know everything. This conversation is going nowhere. Maybe you should move to Iran or Saudi-Arabia, then you could watch some public executions. Maybe even a stoning if you're lucky.
believe me, America is a much dirtier microscope slide than any other country when it comes to observable repulsion.
What do you mean by that? That people in America act repulsed more often? I don't know, in Iran people are repulsed if a woman shows skin or if a man shakes the hand of a woman, or if a man loves another man, etc etc Luckily I live in neither country.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5552406 - 04/24/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im almost positive that there is no possible way to have a fully controlled scientific study done on this.
You're debating. I think the topic has become a side dish to the main course of arguing your point.
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Re: There's a lynching in town - will you attend? [Re: Asante]
#5552417 - 04/24/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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meh.... I started having fun with it back at page 4.
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