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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: HippieChick]
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HippieChick said:Why is it you're mistaken about something and you roll your eyes at someone else.

If this is the attitude you have when someone tries to show you something, maybe you're in the wrong hobby.


Like this. What did that have anything to with this topic or anything I was talking about. How can one possibly tell any type of context by writings on a computer screen? That had nothing to do with why I rolled my eyes. lol

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Zacharian]
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sorry to get back on the subject but... I read the posts over and yes you

are SEEING it the right way, I jumped the gun on my post i thought you didn't understand.

The confusion comes in when you mix % with parts. I think what your saying is that in 1:4 the 1 is equal to 25% of the 4 parts. But the way its posted you can see how someone could THINK your saying that in 1:4 the 1 is 25% of the WHOLE mixture

see in that sense it just gets really confusing

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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BPJohnny said:
sorry to get back on the subject but... I read the posts over and yes you

are SEEING it the right way, I jumped the gun on my post i thought you didn't understand.

The confusion comes in when you mix % with parts. I think what your saying is that in 1:4 the 1 is equal to 25% of the 4 parts. But the way its posted you can see how someone could THINK your saying that in 1:4 the 1 is 25% of the WHOLE mixture

see in that sense it just gets really confusing


Damn someone actually sees what I was saying. I know it is confusing and like I said it is how I think about it and my brain works. And I see what Hippiechick said. But did I deserve to be slammed all over the place because of that?? Christ.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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It's a ratio, 1:4 ratio means 1 part of x for every part of 4 parts of y. So, in a 1:4 ratio, 1 equals 1/5th, because you have 5 parts

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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right paradis but he is saying it differently. Say your using cups as your parts, so you have 1 part (cup) X and 4 parts (cups) Y, 25% of 4Y is
1 cup wich is equal to X so X is equal to 25% of 4Y.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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In a 1:4 spawn/poo ratio, the 1 part of of spawn is 20% of the total mixture. 1/5th = 20%.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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LMFAO


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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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absolutly not arguing that at all. 1 being X and 4 being Y in X:Y X is 20% of X:Y however X is EQUAL TO 25% of Y. But this conversation is totally off subject so we should probably stop posting on it.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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we should probably stop posting on it.


Sounds more like something in the pub than cult. It does have something to do with cult., but it's way off the main thread.

Unless ACN45 would like to completely understand the math behind it. :smirk:

:thumbup:


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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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Paradis said:
In a 1:4 spawn/poo ratio, the 1 part of of spawn is 20% of the total mixture. 1/5th = 20%.


Ok but what is the percentage of the 1 part of spawn to the 4 parts of poo, not the total mixture.

See now?

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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DAMNIT

X = 25% of 4Y.

yes yes, correct, but that's not the problem here, we're getting into mathmatical semantics
You could also say the correct spawn ratio is 1x=1y, then everybody would mix it half and half



All that really matters is the volume of spawn to substrate, right? This is to help people with the correct mix, right?


1:4
you add one part of spawn for every 4 part of poo/straw etc using a 1:4 ratio. In the final mix, the 1 portion of spawn is 20%, 1/5th.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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25%...

But when you mix it...You have 5 parts..

So why would the 25% matter?..

Just curious

-Gnostic


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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Anonymous]
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Or 25% spawn of your every 4 parts poo.

Doesn't it equal the same thing as 20% of the total when your done?

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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The 25% DOES NOT matter a fucking bit. It's not even ''real'' as far as we're concerned here. You take one part of spawn, add 4 parts of substrate, that's five parts. It's as simple as that. No need to make it harder, jesus fucking christ.


BTW- 1:4 IS NOT the standard ratio. It's anywhere from 1:1 to 1:10, you decide which is best for you. I don't want a bunch of noobs in here to start using 1:4 just cause they saw everyone in here arguin about 1:4.

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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Ahhhh

I see.

25% spawn for every 4 part of poo...

And yes, it still comes out as 20% when your done.

:thumbup:

Glad that's all cleared up now.

Take care everyone.

-Gnostic


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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: Zacharian]
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LOL!! the 25% really doesn't matter and using the 25% is just the way more difficult way of saying it. I mean thats why we use ratios right because its way easier to say mix 1 part x and 4 parts y than it is to say get some y and add 25% of y to the mixture to get 20% x there can it be done now?

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
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It's not about whether or not it's more difficult.

It's whether or not he was right abut how he was saying it.

With that said, I'm out.

piece guys

-Gnostic


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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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Ok but I still like thinking of it my way. :smile:

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: ACN45]
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ACN45 said:
The spawn ratio to horsepoo for WBS is 4:1. What does that mean? Is this dry weight? If i had 5 pounds of poo i would need 1.2 pounds of WBS? How many quart jars would that be? Basically I am asking for the number of quart jars of wild bird seed filled 3/4 of the way would i need to spawn to 5 pounds of horsepoo.


4parts hpoo : 1 part WBS
if you are using quarts just use 4 quarts poo and 1 quart WBS dont worry about percentige or doing the math
if you are using weight in lbs you can do it like this on a calculator
A x 4=y (A is weight of colonized WBS, 4 would be the 4 in the 4:1 ratio, and y would be the amount of bulk substrate you would want to use to get a exact 4:1 ratio)
example 1.25lbs WBS x 4= 5lbs hpoo. mixing the 5lbs poo and 1.15lbs WBS will give you 20% spawn and 80% bulk substrate making it a 4:1 ratio
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Edited by hIgHdRoLoVeR (04/09/06 02:20 PM)

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Re: Poo/Spawn Ratio [Re: BPJohnny]
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Exactly.
It did make me not want to post in here though. Arguing about ratio's and shit.

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