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Meditating on mdma?
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Could mdma assist meditation? Is the ability to release any easier on mdma or other drugs?

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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i've only had one experience of it and what i experienced of it i don't think i could meditate on it i may have to try a few more times to give a decent opinion.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: spudamore]
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YOU CAN NOT MEDITATE ON MDMA.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: spudamore]
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why do you think you need mdma to assist with your meditation? what probkems are you experiencing?

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Deviate]
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me or disco cat


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Deviate]
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who said anything about needing it...?


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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MDMA...fuck, Im thinking of soaking a towel with raw ether, setting it in front on me while Im sitting in lotus, and absorbing the slow evaporating fumes to achieve unfathomably high levels of consciousness.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Fospher]
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hahaha you just reminded me of a dream last night where iw as DRINKING ether. thats all i can remember


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: DeathCompany]
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Write down your dreams then, you'll be surprised how many more hidden memories of it spring up from the subconscious.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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> Could mdma assist meditation?

I have used it with meditation and been amazed at the results. I used an extremly low dosage, only around 30mg, nowhere near what people take to roll. At this low of a dosage, I don't really notice the effects, but my focus is very sharp. I have not tried meditation on high dosages and suspect that it would be difficult to maintain the proper focus while rolling.

I am surprised at the closed mindedness of the replies you have gotten so far.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Seuss]
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I've never tried taking a small dose of MDMA, maybe I will tonight.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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I tried once, my first time actually. I managed to do it for about five minutes, but I found my attention was jumping around so fast, I would have had to meditate for quite a while if I even wanted a hope of reaching any level of focus. When I'm on MDMA I feel as if I want to do and experience anything and everything.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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The first hour prior to the 'blow-up' results in a Zen satori-like state that comes spontaneously without the need to meditate (at least for me and my Lady). This satori-like state (albeit, one of attenuated oneness and equanimity) then gives way to an entirely different state -The 'blow-up.' This unique state sometimes occurs so quickly that there is no awareness of the transition. Suddenly, one is in the throes of an 'affective ecstasy.'


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (01/27/06 03:39 PM)

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Satori has nothing to do with ecstatic states of mind. Satori is the realization of non-duality beyond considerations of subject and object. When one sees clearly through the illusion of "self" and "other", that is the realization known as satori. Discovering the essencelenss nature of oneself and consequently the phenomenal universe.

Can you honestly say that MDMA offers anything like this kind of realization?


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Sinbad]
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> Can you honestly say that MDMA offers anything like this kind of realization?

Nope, but I can honestly say it can lead one by the hand to the open gate.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: RESTLESS]
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RESTLESS said:
YOU CAN NOT MEDITATE ON MDMA.


"YOU CAN NOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER" -James Douglas Morrison.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Disco Cat]
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Disco Cat said:
Could mdma assist meditation? Is the ability to release any easier on mdma or other drugs?


I like Vicaprofin or Vicadin. Take two on an empty stomach and meditate away.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Sinbad]
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Sinbad said:
Satori has nothing to do with ecstatic states of mind. Satori is the realization of non-duality beyond considerations of subject and object. When one sees clearly through the illusion of "self" and "other", that is the realization known as satori. Discovering the essencelenss nature of oneself and consequently the phenomenal universe.

Can you honestly say that MDMA offers anything like this kind of realization?


Sinbad have you ever tried MDMA?  I have tried it in a theraputic setting. It's pretty amazing. :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Icelander]
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> I have tried it in a theraputic setting. It's pretty amazing

Low dosage is very different than high dosage... gotta agree with you... as long as you are not looking for a roll, the low dosages (theraputic dosages) can have some amazing effects... though typically not the sort of effects a "recreational oriented" person is looking for.


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Re: Meditating on mdma? [Re: Seuss]
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I typically use 2 to 4 hits for this work. :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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