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Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes
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In no particular order


Drug Heroes

Alexander Shulgin - Absolute legend! Re-discoverer of MDMA and inventor of dozens of psychedelic chemicals. He even has even published two books PIHKAL and TIHKAL which contain recipes on how to make these chemicals. This guy has probably taken the biggest selection of now illegal drugs of any person on the planet and is still going strong at 80 years of age.

Albert Hoffman - Inventor of LSD, one of the most remarkable substances known to man. Even more remarkable is the fact he synthesized it accidentally! Pure class... :laugh:

Aldous Huxley - Author of 'The doors of Perception'. A book detailing his account of Mescaline.

Rick Dolbin - President of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies)

Peter Jennings - The man behind the now classic documentary 'Ecstasy Rising'. This man exposed on national TV the lies and bullshit spewed forth by the anti-drug movement surrounding this wonderful drug. This man deserves a lot of credit for his effort.

Howard Marks (aka Mr. Nice!) - The biggest international cannabis smuggler known to man, and so charming with it :wink:

Drug Zeroes

Karen Tandy - Head of the DEA, an brainwashing organization that spreads lies and anti-drug propaganda like wildfire. This organization even has a museum with a 9/11 monument to symbolize the fact that drugs have funded terrorism. They seem completely oblivious to the fact that prohibition is the real cause by placing the inevitable constant market for recreational drugs (inevitable due to supply & demand) into the hands of gangs and terrorists through prohibition. I could go on forever about the DEA so I'll end it there :wink:

George W. Bush - This guy is a complete dimwit so it's only natural that he be on the 'drug Zeroes' list. His former cocaine use was purely down to a youthful indiscretion and now that he's clean he's not going to take any of that "youthful indiscretion" crap. He's locking your ass in jail!

Please add your contributions (individuals not groups)... :smile:


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"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
-Marge Simpson

Edited by cubeladd (12/28/05 12:03 PM)

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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I don't hold Leary at such a high esteem. I think he had a more destructive role in the pioneering of LSD than he did a constructive role.

Also add this guy to Drug Heroes
Alfred M. Hubbard "Captain Trips" - They called him "the Johnny Appleseed of LSD." He was to the psychedelic movement nothing less than the membrane through which all passed to enter into the Mysteries.

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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cubeladd said:
Timothy Leary - Legendery LSD poineer. Founder of the acid test parties and has done more than any other man alive to spread the word of LSD far and wide. If you are a hippy you will no doubt regard this man very highly.



Wow, so you nothing about Leary then?

Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters founded the "acid test" parties and Timothy Leary didn't get along with them at all.

And I think there are plenty of hippies who find wisdom in leary but MANY mistakes.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Cowgold]
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Ken Kesey pioneered the acid tests, leary was more of a motivation and source.


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To be honest, I fear the OTD. ---TheMadConductor

Now I'm gonna have to start getting down on my knees and blowing mushrooms... ---RogerRabbit

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: debianlinux]
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i dont see Mark Emery on there anywhere ????????

add add add he is a great soldier in the fight against prohabition !


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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one

Diploid said:
What's with proclaiming freedom by abridging freedom? That makes no sense.

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
cubeladd said:
Timothy Leary - Legendery LSD poineer. Founder of the acid test parties and has done more than any other man alive to spread the word of LSD far and wide. If you are a hippy you will no doubt regard this man very highly.



Wow, so you nothing about Leary then?

Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters founded the "acid test" parties and Timothy Leary didn't get along with them at all.

And I think there are plenty of hippies who find wisdom in leary but MANY mistakes.


My drug hero is OMR, for pointing out this poster's ignorance.


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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Silversoul]
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Ed Rosenthal could be added... I don't want to type a paragraph about him however..

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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Why is Karen Tandy on the top of you Drug Zeroes list? I've never even heard of her.

The top of your Drug Zeroes list should be Harry J Anslinger.


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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Why is Karen Tandy on the top of you Drug Zeroes list? I've never even heard of her.

The top of your Drug Zeroes list should be Henry J Anslinger.


The lists are in no particular order. I have never heard of Henry J Anslinger but I will look him up.


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"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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YOUVE NEVER HEARDDD ???
that is sad, im sorry you need not be in charge of this post.


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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one

Diploid said:
What's with proclaiming freedom by abridging freedom? That makes no sense.

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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First drug Czar

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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OMR has already pointed out your ignorance of Timothy Leary. Please go back and edit it. And while you're at it, put that information for him under Ken Kesey. Then learn who Leary actually was before spouting such bullshit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary


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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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BTW, if you're gonna have Bush on the list of drug zeroes, you might as well add every president since Nixon, save for Jimmy Carter.


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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: elaspeinreason]
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elaspeinreason said:
YOUVE NEVER HEARDDD ???
that is sad, im sorry you need not be in charge of this post.


Well I could consider it sad that you have never heard of Karen Tandy. The idea of this post is to add your own figures that I have missed.


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"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
-Marge Simpson

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Silversoul]
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Paradigm said:
OMR has already pointed out your ignorance of Timothy Leary. Please go back and edit it. And while you're at it, put that information for him under Ken Kesey. Then learn who Leary actually was before spouting such bullshit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary


Post amended your worship. Now chill the fuck out and stop being such an arse! Poeple make mistakes.


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"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
-Marge Simpson

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: cubeladd]
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Drug Hero: HELLA_TIGHT-  This guy is so into drugs, I hear he cracks nitrous chargers directly into his bum, no balloon or anything.

Drug Zero:  Timothy Leary- He secretly worked for the FBI.  :thumbdown:

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Timothy Leary was so egotistical too. And beyond that, I don't agree with the "Drop Out" part of his philosophy. If you imagine a bunch of clumps of stners all dropping out to form their own versions of society, all you get is on ebig fractured mess. Instead of deviating from the center along the lines of some silly notion of "counter-culture" wouldn't it make more sense to converge on the center with a fresh set of ideas?


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Wow, you've got some solid opinions on the guy. I agree with you, "drop out" is a bad idea. Indeed; why not try to affect a change from within?

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Because that's not "cool." LE DER!


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Drug Heroes Vs. Drug Zeroes [Re: Burke Dennings]
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e-chode said:
Drug Hero: HELLA_TIGHT-  This guy is so into drugs, I hear he cracks nitrous chargers directly into his bum, no balloon or anything.

Drug Zero:  Timothy Leary- He secretly worked for the FBI.  :thumbdown:


wow that is hardcore! Would it actually work though?


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"The only thing I'm high on is Love for my Son and Daughters. Yes, a little LSD is all I need."
-Marge Simpson

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