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How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot?
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David Warren: The French Connection (How long before Muslims in Canada start to riot?)
Western Standard ^ | December 12, 2005 | David Warren


One of my American friends asked me this question a couple of weeks ago: "Do you think what is happening in France will happen in Canada?"

Now, I'm not sure the average Canadian would even know what has happened in France, but take it from me, the Islamic Revolution in Europe has begun. Not that the average Canadian (a class which, of course, excludes Western Standard readers) is without an excuse. For if he listens to CBC, he will be under the impression that the rioting has been by "underprivileged French youths." The fact that they had been chanting "Allahou Akhbar!" in each of the several hundred locations where they were torching cars each night, was quite passed over. After all, telling people what is really going on is the fundamental act of political incorrectness.

The short answer is, yes, it will happen here. But you know I prefer long answers.

For the short term, Canada is better off than France in three significant ways. One, the proportion of Muslims in the general population is far lower. Two, they are not overwhelmingly from one subcultural part of the Islamic world (as, North Africa). Three, the opportunities for integration into Canadian society are much higher. We don't have "Muslim ghettoes" anything like what they have in France.

Indeed, Canada still receives large numbers of immigrants from the Middle East who are not Muslim, but instead Christian. Many came here to escape conditions in that Islamic world--where Christians are subjugated under "dhimmi" status, and are increasingly persecuted for their beliefs. (This varies in intensity from country to country, but is nevertheless a real issue from Morocco to Indonesia.) It is hard to guess from census returns, but I would think nearly half of Canada's Arabs are in fact Christian (once it was nearly 100 per cent), and that most would take a grimmer view of the "threat of radical Islam" than any WASP Canadian has ever entertained.

But the reality is that, today, our gates are wide open to an influx of immigrant claimants from every part of the Islamic world. Most of these are economic migrants, who came here because there were no opportunities back home. Many are members of Muslim minorities--Shiites, Sufis, Alowites, Animist-synchretists and others who were themselves persecuted by Sunni Muslim authorities back home. Only a tiny number are of the terrorist disposition, but alas, only a tiny number have to be for Canada to be under a huge terrorist threat; and this number can easily enter the country as part of the refugee flow.

The real problem, as in France, is the second generation. Will they be assimilated into the mainstream of Canadian life, or will they be increasingly separated into economically dysfunctional ghettoes, where the jobless young fall under the spell of fanatical imams and delinquent peers?

The concentrations of Muslims congregating in distinct neighbourhoods of, for example, greater Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto and London, Ont., should be cause for alarm. The lethal combination of Canadian state "multicultural" policies (a reprise on France), with the universal Islamic demand for separate existence under Sharia law, with the current international Muslim vogue for Salafist and Wahabbi puritanism, is almost a guarantee for serious trouble.

Like France, Canada currently lacks the intellectual and moral equipment to grasp the profound contradictions between the cultural norms of Islam, and those we have inherited through the Christian tradition. Our very inability to discuss these conflicts openly makes us defenceless against any future challenge to what we are and how we live. And our proliferating "human rights codes" were almost designed to prevent our waking up.

Example of question: "Is it possible to be both a faithful practising Muslim, and a loyal citizen of the secular Canadian state?" A lot of learned Muslims would say no.

So, yes, in short, we should expect what we are now seeing in Europe to explode, sooner or later, in Canada, too. When, is an open question, but the precedent that has now been set in all the major cities of France will probably make it sooner.

http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/index.cfm?

Not in "Canada"!!!!!!! Not with its oh-so progressive tolerant multiculturalism and diversity......


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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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:rofl2:

BE AFRAID!!!

FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!

My town is FULL of Muslims, very nice people, very polite and respectful...

They have just completed the third large mosque and it is a fantastic  addition to the city...

Just very regular people trying to live their lives...


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Edited by Prajna (12/13/05 08:27 PM)

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Prajna]
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The article failed to mention that Canada will probably have to cope with an influx of young repressed Muslim refugees from downunder...


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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Clever Quip

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Noetical]
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Canada terrorist haven
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37376


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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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For the Arabs to riot they must have a large population of disaffected youth and the proper environment (poverty,racial tension,government scrutiny.) Canada is a pretty accepting country of polical asylum seekers and its gone to help Canada in its dodging of terrorism by keeping its troops out of Iraq and constant Scrutiny of Iraq.

Notice how the recent hostage kidnappings of the 2 canadian citizens and the american and brit. The 2 canadians will more than likely be freed where as the american and the brit will be shot in the back of the head, but than again its a matter of which insurgent group kidnapped these people.

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said:
Now, I'm not sure the average Canadian would even know what has happened in France...


oh ya the average canadian has just no clue what's going on in other countries...how arrogant.

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...but take it from me, the Islamic Revolution in Europe has begun.


oh my, arrogant AND ignorant.


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Not that the average Canadian (a class which, of course, excludes Western Standard readers) is without an excuse. For if he listens to CBC, he will be under the impression that the rioting has been by "underprivileged French youths."


But don't be fooled, the people who participted in the riots are very satisified with their life and they just want have a religious state! :rolleyes:



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Not in "Canada"!!!!!!! Not with its oh-so progressive tolerant multiculturalism and diversity......



The cities in france that are the most diverse, that have high racial mixity, are the cities in which no riots occured. So no, if Canada doesn't have the same ghettos that france has, riots won't occur. And the riots are not "Muslim riots", the people that were involved were from all over the place, from eastern europe, to africa, to france. Qualifying these riots as muslim riots proves your ignorance.

Quit being so fearful of what you don't know.



Or maybe you should just ask your president for a preventive attack against all muslims who show any violent behavior and who are therefore potentially harmful to yourself and to your dear patriots.

You remind me of that hilarious cartoon in "bowling for columbine", paraphrasing american history: Indians? AHHHHH! Bang bang. Witches? AHHHHHH! Burn them! Work? FUCK NO! Import slaves! Blacks demanding their rights?? AHHHHH! kkk desguise! Black people considered as equal as everyone else? AHHHHH! Its cool I got my gun.

I hope that this logic of fear and paranoia in the course of human history won't follow the same logic; something like: Muslims want the death of the US? AHHHHHH! Bomb them!

What are you so scared of lonestar? That Al qaeda will build an army of a million men and invade your country?


:crazy2: :rolleyes: :crazy2: :rolleyes: :mad2: :eek: :sad: :syringe: :thumbdown: :confused: :frown:


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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: exclusive58]
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Spokesman Paris Bob has the following statement regarding alleged rioters:

"There are no rioters in France. Never!"

"The liars are not worth an old shoe."

"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of France]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in France. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

"They do not even have control over themselves! Do not believe them!"

There are NO rioters there. I will take you there and show you. IN ONE HOUR!""

God willing, I will provide you with more information. I swear by God.

"Those are not rioters at all."

"Just look carefully, I only want you to look carefully. Do not repeat the lies of liars. Do not become like them. Once again, I blame Bush."

"Search for the truth. I tell you things and I always ask you to verify what I say."

"You can go and visit those places. Nothing there, nothing at all. Everything is okay."

"Those liars only deserve to be hit with shoes."

"Paris Bob"

Formerly- Baghdad Bob


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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What does what that idiot says have anything to do with Canada? From what I've seen in my travels to Canada, they will not have the problem of riots. Canada is very good at allowing vibrant multicultural societies without forcing migrants into ethnic enclaves.

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Redstorm]
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to be honest i found the article interesting.


"Two, they are not overwhelmingly from one subcultural part of the Islamic world (as, North Africa). Three, the opportunities for integration into Canadian society are much higher. We don't have "Muslim ghettoes" anything like what they have in France."


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
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I really don't think you'll have rioting there. The sense of community, regardless of race, that I see when I go to Canada amazes me. Minorities are not marginalized or excluded from society.

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Redstorm]
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The person who wrote this article is out to lunch.. Like RedStorm says you have to really come here to see it, but we have established one of the most ethnicly diverse and accepting countries on earth.. I talk to middle eastern people all the time and they're quite happy lving here..Alot happier then when they were living in the US thats for sure..If theres anyone that should be worrying about riots I'd say it's the US.. It's not like you haven't had them before..

Edited by Bhairabas (12/15/05 11:16 AM)

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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Bhairabas]
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Bhairabas said:
The person who wrote this article is out to lunch.. Like RedStorm says you have to really come here to see it, but we have established one of the most ethnicly diverse and accepting countries on earth.. I talk to middle eastern people all the time and they're quite happy lving here..Alot happier then when they were living in the US thats for sure..If theres anyone that should be worrying about riots I'd say it's the US.. It's not like you haven't had them before..


:thumbup:

Yeah I'd have to agree, you would have to experience the difference to appreciate it.  I regularly hunt with a group from the UP in Michigan, and my grandfather lives in Phoenix, so I see a lot of both countries, racially there IS a big difference...

I love Canada because the only thing we seem to want to fight about is the language thing.  It's great when you can get into an argument with a french speaking Arab over the English/french issues and never even think about the fact that he's an ex Iraqi arguing with you in french!

This country fucking rocks!  Those with hippie ideals fit very well here...


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Re: How long before Muslims in Canada start to Riot? [Re: Prajna]
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I agree.

Multi-culturalism is one of proudest things Canada stands for. Ever since I can remember in school, we've always supported and understood how wonderful it is to be in a multi-cultural society.

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