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OfflineAzurepower
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Finch seed flour/Quinoa flour mix!
    #505121 - 12/30/01 08:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have been mixing up an experimental substrate which seems to do very well. I use the half pint jar method but i use bird seed flour and quinoa flour in place of brf, and man it seems to colonize soo fast 6 days and my Thai strain 95% colonized thats very fast for a PF style cake. Just thought I would let u all know this little experiment i did, its sure working great for me:)


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Re: Finch seed flour/Quinoa flour mix! [Re: Azurepower]
    #505140 - 12/30/01 08:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting. I'd like more specifics on measurements and just more details in general. I found this the other day on the advanced board. (sorry I can't give credit to whomever wrote this)

"I have used a millet/quinoa tek exclusively for the past 3 years.
millet steeped for an hour first.
2 parts millet(steeped)
1part quinoa(flour)
1/2part vermiculite.
I am too cheapo to go with big jars(too small of a pressure cooker) so I use 1/2 pints with a 1/2 inch vermic layer and innoculate via oven tek.
I find that this formula yields me approx 140 wet grams per cake cased and approx 240-290 grams when used to mix with straw(50/50 grain to straw ratio as close as can be guessed.
The quinoa flour is excellent to get things going for the mycelium. once the mycelium has begun to consume the flour, it has much more energy to penetrate the whole millet much more quickly. a varied substrate(large and small nutrient pieces) is essentail for a healthy mycelial matrix for ALL MUSHROOMS!
Iguess the vermic isnt really necessary, but it keeps things loose, and keeps a lot of air in there for the mycelium to breathe.
colinization is approx 2 weeks tops at 82 degrees f
the stats: quinoa has 10x the nutrients of brf, millet is also more nutritious, just dont know how much
I have been using just a plain vermic casing sometimes, or a casing of plain potting soil microwaved for 10 minutes and let sit for a day or two.
I crumble cakes into tray. same day, I nuke soil.
after 2 days or so, when the mycelium has recovered somewhat, I case with the soil.
I always notice super phatty rhizomorphs protruding like fingers from the casing within a week."


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Re: Finch seed flour/Quinoa flour mix! [Re: upupup]
    #505459 - 12/31/01 01:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Where do I get Guinoa and what is it?
Can it be obtained at an organic health food store?
Thanks
Bob


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Re: Finch seed flour/Quinoa flour mix! [Re: repobob]
    #505656 - 12/31/01 04:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It's quinoa (pronounced Keen-Wa)
and yes you can find it at an organic health food store


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Re: Finch seed flour/Quinoa flour mix! [Re: upupup]
    #505657 - 12/31/01 05:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I believe Azurescen posted his 3 year bit.

Quinoa can be found at finer grocery stores. It is a small seed. It runs $3-4 per lb. Bobs' Red Mill sells quinoa (keen-wa) flour for about $6 for 22 oz.

I have seen Azurepowers jars, they were colonized insanely fast.

I am trying out a special blend myself.

1/4 cup ground finch seed
1/4 cup Bob's Red Mill 7 grain hot cereal
1/2 cup ground bird seed
2 3/4 cups rye juice (drained from steeped rye)

yeild 2.75 pints

All mixed well and pakaged PF style. I will be posting pictures and results.

Joshua


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